Fox is still overpowered

I actually want a clean warrior with apfsds and the stupid Milan taken off, so badly…

  1. Right. I agree.

  2. Right. I don’t think it’d require a massive uptier - It would depend on the performance of that APFSDS and what exactly it could do.

This particular mod is notably against any situation that would benefit Britain regarding long range maps too. So it is pretty silly to claim this particular tool is biased towards Britain.

73 is not remotely equal. It fails in the same use cases as 9M, and is flared significantly easier even at point blank. 73s really don’t serve the use case that would make them “different but equal”. If they were modeled properly as the dogfight missile they should be, then sure. But otherwise, no, it is not the case. Regardless, A10C is more comparable to Su-25SM3 if you’re going to bother to compare the platforms, it is not on parity with 25T when accounting for self guided ordnance and targeting tools. I would also note the SM3 only gets 2 x R73, compared to 4 x 9M, at 12.3 in air, and whilst it has IR air to ground ordnance it has a fraction the payload of the A10 in general, but the IR guided missiles are better. This makes it a far closer example of “different, but equal” however it still falls short of equal to the A10C which is at 11.7.

Don’t particularly care for the debate, but if you’re going to make comparisons, at least make fair comparisons.

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You get everyones posts flagged stop whining

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Still works for HEATFS and the mediocre ATGMs, just had a friend fire 105mm HEATFS and the BMP-1 missile at the cheeks and it tanked both, i imagine his round caught your optic or the gap between the breach and cheek

I would happily spade, tali and ace a second fox just for a dart

I keep proving things right, and you all keep reporting the posts. That’s called censored media, which is very controlling no? I wouldn’t have cared if it was 1:1

It hit the right most cheek directly in the center. From the gepard, T-55 got it in the center block. Honestly it’s got my super confused now.

Agreed

Its basically a re-cased PMC287 Shell found on the Pumba

Not speaking on behalf of @Pacifica

But multiple posts from different users have been removed from this thread, i wouldn’t say it’s one sided. It’s clearing the thread up so you can stay on topic. As posted once by myself and other staff members.

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That’s what I’ve been trying to do lol. But the “Russia op / bias” topic keeps popping up, I’m just saying, if my post on a same off topic thing is removed it only makes sense to remove the other ones no?

Anyways. Back to the fox destroyer of worlds.

Wouldn’t be horrendous at somewhere like 8.3/8.7 then

tho tbh theres been like 4 or 5 attempts to get a apfsds round for the 30mm Rarden lol

And in typical british fashion i doubt anything ever came to fruit because our MOD is allergic to purchasing foreign weaponry/ammunition

I mean… considering were like… mothballing the warrior in like 2 or 3 years whats the point right?

“bloody foringers innit mate can’t trust am”

I mean yeah, Ajax is on the way but still, they decided not to go with the CTA 40mm upgrade and decided to keep the obsolete turret

I wouldn’t mind another fox at 8.7 with APFSDS depending on its pen. If it’s 110mm now, and it becomes like 142mm then no. If it became maybe 118-120 sure okay.