Never thought Id see Mythbuster used for something in War Thunder :D
I’d never thought there would be a thread thats 2k messages deep that would escalate to the point where we need to link Mythbuster videos :P
Could reach 4000 messages and the guy will still think the fox should be a higher BR than the Xm1 lmafo!!.

Bro was the real life fox, flanking farmers for food and attacking unsuspecting passers by XD
This is assuming both bullets are the same weight.
2a42 and Rarden projectiles are not the same weight.
@RemoveCASfromGRB
Myth busters is the best.
The fox shouldn’t be higher than the xm at 8.0, but they should definitely be equal.
The potency and efficiency as gaijin puts it, of the fox outclasses many many tanks. That’s why it’s a go to, people would hate it to be nerfed because it seal clubs = easy wins
Loooooooool
it seal clubs at 7.7 my dude that is mid-tier that be whale hunting
seals are at 1.0-3.7 br
so the solution is to nerf the round to the point its ineffective at all and also ruins the warrior?
It, and the XM800T vastly outclass any other light tank at their BRs in a one on one situation. Good luck killing a Fox/XM800T in an Ikv-91 or Ush. They are faster, have vastly better gun handling, and much higher velocity shells. Reload doesn’t matter since any autocannon is faster than a main gun.
I also wish that people will stop saying skill issue to any genuine criticism towards them. Do they even play other vehicles?
Go try and face a Fox/btr80/xm800t in a light tank without an autocannon. You won’t win unless the other player messes up.
Personally, I wouldn’t mind if they got the R3 treatment by moving down to 6.X, losing apds, and becoming an SPAA. I just want to be able to play my light tanks without facing stuff that kills me instantly before I can do much.
same goes for the higher BR auto cannon tanks hurling darts at lightly armoured MBTs, most 9.3s get absolutely peppered by autocannon light tanks, heck even some top tier MBTs get one tapped by them.
auto cannons themselves are an issue across almost every BR, however.
nerfing the rarden isnt the answer as it will completely make the Warrior obsolete.
the fox needs to go up in BR to 8.0 along side the xm800T
That is gaijins normal solution for Britain
Believe you me sir, I know.
I havent even technically finished grinding top tier aka chally 3 td cause its literally not worth it at all anymore.
I agree with that.
I don’t believe that most autocannon only tanks could ever truly be balanced as non-spaa. You either end up like the R3 on release where it was incredibly OP, the R3 now where it’s just a decent SPAA, or a Fox/XM800T where they are too good against light tanks, but bad against armoured tanks.
Yeah man, but then the 20mm coax on the amx30 cant even take tracks off half the time now.
I blame Gaijin for making it not full AP, and making the AP hvap only. As a fun bonus, it partially blinds you when firing.
So it can’t do alot of damage against tanks, it actively hinders you when firing it, and it isn’t roof mounted or attached to the gun’s vertical traverse.
yeah its pretty damn brutal to use now adays, sure its great against paper tanks obj 906 or IKV 91s etc but god damn it used to at least take off a track, or a barrel, now cant damage anyof it
like the 20mm on the leo2k man thing is fantastically handy
How’s that 15 year claim?
Alright bud. Gaijin threw us for a loop. No one was expecting another domestic light tank this year for Britian. We already got our 1 yearly allowed light.
Yeah, it was a bit out of the blue. If only France got their dosmetic light tanks with autocannons now 😿
That aside, folk are not gonna be happy with a fox that can actually handle decent terrain. I am expecting a similar thread of sooking to this one the day after the update drops.