What I hate the most about 16v16 is how I am unable to get kills…
Every time I try to engage someone, they just blow up because a teammate that kamikaze-rushed them on a head-on got the kill before my missile could reach them from my carefully selected position.
16v16 only rewards those who rush into the ground-level furball to get a kill before dying, while it punishes those who defend against missiles, sideclimb and work strategically.
I have not got anything but 16v16s in 4 days. Not a single 12v12. The “option to have a chance” thing is useless.
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All missile are not that hard to dodge tbf.
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I got few, and you feel it tbh. I wish they fix that soon.
These planes would be fun to play if you bored to play ARH games.
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Sadly no, too strong missile they face. And they don’t have flares to counter them. Korean war battle, mig15vsf86 was something else 10 years ago. No we can’t do it again. We have mach2 plane with missile close to the f86/mig15 BR.
Not really if you bring MiG-15bis ISH or A-5 Sabre.
Both things are really strong rn.
Who would’ve guessed that excel simulator is more boring than dogfighting.
Nobody could have seen this coming.
This is what I am talking about.
THIS IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
From now on, I will just leave 16v16s before even spawning.
It always, ALWAYS boils down to this; people suicide-rushing on a ground-level furball, getting a kill or two, and dying. It almost always ends up on a snowball match where one team steamrolls the other.
And those of us who actually try to play smart and using any inkling of strategy? We get shafted because everyone just kills and dies before our missiles have the chance to reach them.
This was last match. I couldn ot get a kill because everyone were just blowing up and dying because they were already eating multiple missiles before mine could reach them.
All because I refused to go into the ground-level furball and I preferred to try to play my BVR plane with BVR weapons in a BVR way.
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That would be a really good option! 👍
Well, looks like my suspicions were right. Much like IR missiles, fox3s seem to track through terrain, and thanks to inertial guidance they are even more effective at it. Terrain masking is pointless as of now
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Continuing the discussion from Fox-3‘s ruined Air RB:
fox 3 is a joke it s impossible do dodge you take them from bozo you are in space and shoot at 40km you stay on the ground shaft turn and nothing happen now it s a monkey gameplay just target and shoot and you win i hope gayjin will nerf a little fox3 or a lot of player will stop to play air battle it s not fun
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There are multiple videos, posts and tutorials explaining how to defend against Fox-3.
For the most part and simply put, turning into notch angles and/or pulling away from the missile while chaffing will allow you to evade them reliabily.
People have just got so used to being fully immune to radar missiles with zero effort just for flying remotely close to the ground that now that the safety blanket was reduced (not even removed) apparently people find themselves defenceless because they never learnt better.
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POV: you only fly straight and only turn when you get a base
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What you write doesn’t change the fact that it’s now ugly gameplay.
In the RB, half the players are gone after a few minutes, the main thing is one or two kills from a height and good. Many people don’t care whether they die afterwards.
Wow, yes, it’s really great how many people are adapting to this… What a wrong decision to bring this into play like that. Congratulations
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What are you saying? It’s the opposite.
The people who die faster and without even fighting back are those who continue insisting to rush head-on to a furball on the ground level, not caring about threats, defending, or anything. Just get a kill before dying. No wonder…
When I try to climb even to a minimal height and defend, I can’t get a single kill because everyone has blown up on some low altitude kamikaze furball. Exact same way they did before Fox-3 was added.
The truth is- we are now using 2000s+ jet fighters in Top Tier. Naturally, you can’t expect to play them like Korean War or WW2 planes because it’s just a whole different world.
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No you didn’t. If you did, it would have worked.
Realistic is your favorite? You have vastly more games in Arcade, as an example 810 battles in your F16C in Arcade and only 23 in the same aircraft for Realistic. A Realistic change for RB and SB should be fine I would think if you don’t really play those game modes right?
I play Realistic Air and Sim Ground I don’t think changes for them should go to Arcade and vice versa does that make sense? I think it does.
I guess AB is similar in terms of 3rd person view…but BR doesn’t have the wonky flight model and Tank handling AB does, that’s why I avoid AB Air and Ground.
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RB EC with proper objectives would split fights way more and make proper BVR possible. Right now we have 2 gaggles meeting at the middle of a map which is fun but you cant even make proper use of FOX3s there tbh.
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