FOX-3: Active Radar Homing Missiles

I might need gajin give AIM-9L/i or AIM-9L/i-1 on Tornado ADV (ITA) but omitted Skyflash SuperTemp

For Harrier GR.7, change targeting pod to TIALD 400 instead TIALD from Jaguar GR.1A/GR.1B

And now TIALD targeting pod on Tornado GR.1 from Jaguar GR.1A ?

Or change to TIALD 200 for Tornado GR.1 in the future ?

programmable still have a lower time limit set by the machinery that moves the rounds. Move to fast and the metal/hydraulics break.

And the A version of gripen still have about 5 or 6 upgrade packages it got over its lifetime IRL. Gaijin could have chosen at what point the in game version is from but they have instead picked and chosen wildly in between the packages on what to include or not.

Yeah for Leclerc it’s 5 seconds, but IRL crews usually set it to 6.
For Type 10 it’s allegedly less than 3.5 seconds, but in training it’s clearly 3.5 - 4 seconds likely set by the crew.

So Gaijin has then obviously set it to a different value for balance. i.e. artificial nerf.

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Gaijin clearly went with a “late” model of the JAS39A. As we move towards aircraft without much public documentation, this is just something we’re going to have to deal with.

Early JAS39A’s (Likely without some these upgrades present in-game) were 1,000kg lighter (~5700kg vs ~6700kg) compared to JAS39C, which would make it much more manoeuvrable due to higher TWR and better wing-loading.

Should’ve been the early and then the late should have been foldered under.

oh yes, a vast majority of the A version in game is VERY late. IIRC the in game version even has a radar it never used because it was introduced after the decommission of the A version.

absolutely!

Something i didn’t know :) nice ^^

They had an opportunity to add the early one with F16’s and Mig29’s with it’s 9L(i) missiles and without HMD, instead they had Sweden wait an entire year without a top tier jet and I guess they wanted to add something relevant to the meta of that update. My guess is they’re saving Swedish 39C for Iris-T and radar upgrade, and then the 39E when they add Rank 9 stuff. (I think it’ll be very potent with 200° radar and 7 Meteor loadout)

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Dont forget the Gripen NG.

Knowing Gaijin they will introduce demonstration Gripen in order to increase the grind.

Well, the radar is PS-05 for both 39A and 39C, the 39C however received multiple upgrades for it. 39A was decommissioned/retired in 2012.

There is like zero documentation available on the PS-05 outside advertisements due to it being classified. Gaijin is currently basing the PS-05/A off the Blue Vixen radar that it was based off, Gunjob made that happen with an internal report, so it’s basically a complete copy off some document for a blue-vixen radar. 39C radar is likely underperforming right now, but as I said before:

Interesting, have you got a link to that?

Well… Kinda confirmed. But better evidence than I think we had before :D

In A2A I dont think it would be a huge amount of difference (though in the absence of docs we’ll never know for sure)

but I think the bulk of the modifications to the Blue Vixen made for the Gripen was to add more A2G modes. Which could be a big buff for it in a CAS role.

It’s set to slower speeds to lower the wear on the autoloader, and with it the need of maintenance.

However being able to set it slower does not make it slower. Generally the fastest possible time is the capability in ideal conditions, ignoring any reliability, wear or cost that might be issues in reality.
For the Type 10 the fastest recorded speeds put it at a little under 3s in continuous fire, and 1.2s for a readied round already cycled in after the last shot.

Nobody is arguing it can’t be this slow, but it is intentionally worse than it could be, while other vehicles are closer, or even farther, from their ideal condition reload. It is a balancing factor and intentionally not the real value for balnce, Gaijin has stated this before.

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Running it through Google Translate it appears to confirm the opposite: that Italy didn’t use the SuperTEMP:

The differences between the aircraft came with the entry into service of night vision goggles (NVG) in the RAF and the “Capability Sustain Programme” which led the British F.3 to adopt the AIM-120 medium/long range missile AMRAAM instead of the more limited short/medium range Sky Flash SuperTEMP and TEMP (the latter version in service in Italy).

To me that says the TEMP was in service with Italy.

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Oh, interesting. Never mind then. I never did that. Just remember seeing it in that thread.

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The guy we were responding to was just copy pasting an argument over and over again. You can’t really argue with that.

Then you can just ignore people, and there are also options in your user profile to ignore / block members… or as I mentioned take disputes to PM and sort them out there

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Honestly I didn’t know there were any of those options on here aside from ignoring them.