FOX-3: Active Radar Homing Missiles

AESA radars too strong for now

they might be…

They might not.

we already have several mechanical radars that were considered comparable to AESA. Its hard to tell whether it would actually have that significant of a gameplay impact

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I think it’d be best to add PESA radars, for example on the MiG-31 before jumping to AESA, almost as a test. Not sure what other aircraft use PESA tho.

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I would say probably, but gaijin denied Typhoons well in advance of the ARH Devblog, so expecting them in this patch is not a reasonable expectation.

And furthermore, I would say the people whining about the F-4F ICE already are probably people that have no idea how missile combat should actually function and rely heavily on the multipathing dogfight meta IR missile slingers to get anything done, which hopefully will no longer be the case in this update. 4 AMRAAMs tied to a great radar and good IR missiles will keep it competitive enough until the Eurofighters come in either fall or winter. It’s going to be the second aircraft I unlock this patch after the F-15C for a reason.

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Only concern there is that is another thing the soviets get first and other nations get left hanging for ages. Like they’ve done for ground radar, passive ECM systems, etc

Something like the F-2 for Japan would probably be a fairly reasonable option

Their early radar was pretty bad apparently

But why add the F-2 in a nerfed configuration when the F-15J MSIP is just an overall better option (in terms of balancing and historical accuracy, not performance)

Yeah… Its unlikely. At least 1 update with FA2 and ICE before Typhoons I think.

Germany could still end up getting something like a Swiss F-18 before Typhoon though, Im kinda expecting them September (maybe even As this update)

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Britain will be getting R-Darter on the JAS-39C, unless they’re adding the Cheetah.

So it’s literally only Germany that’ll be stuck with a 3rd gen fighter, unless Gaijin decides to give the MiG-29G R-77s which I strongly disagree with.

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Why add the Sea harrier FA2 when the Gripen C is probably going to be better in every respect?

It shouldnt be about adding “good” stuff only. If we did that, 75% of aircraft or vehicles in general would never get added.

I know a lot of Jap mains are itching for the F-2. I do expect the F-15 because its easier. But thats just a poor excuse

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R-Darter on the Gripen and Aim-120 on the Sea Harrier FA2

But I’ll be in the FA2

What does a F-15J-MSIP do better than a F-2 with (e.g.) temporary placeholder PD Radar ? :o

If it even needs a placeholder radar. AESA would be good. But I dont think it would be game breakingly good. Though does depend on Gaijins implementation of AESA

Potentially IRST, and more CMs I believe.

IRST was only tested on one ADTW iirc (and ditched due to issues), so CMs are the only valid point tbh.

I believe you misunderstood, the F-2 is a more capable aircraft than the F-15J. In particular, it carries AAM-5 and AAM-4, both superior to other missiles in-game including the 120A/B and R-77. The F-15J MSIP meanwhile is a better choice because it is essentially identical to the C MSIP, historically using AIM-120B and AAM-3 for quite a while, thus providing a more realistic, simple to implement, and balanced aircraft, with the only unrealistic nerf being how AAM-3 is currently a suspended animation IRCCM and not dual-spectrum. The F-2 will have to be pretty limited in order to remain balanced, which I generally don’t approve of since vehicle accuracy is WT’s best aspect IMO.

That’s farther than the Yak-141s ever got.

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SAAF Gripens only use IRIS-T at the moment, No Aim-9M, No R-Darter, No Skyflash

Its simple enough to just give the F-2 AAM-3 and AAM-4.

AAM-3 is already in game and AAM-4 is listed in this dev post

F-15 is the easier platform to add though and specific FM stuff I have no idea about. But F-15s are a BVR truck, so not surprised about it being worse

It is confirmed AAM-4 is going to come. So that’s not a difference between them. And kinematcally the F-15J is superior to the F-2 in their use.