Only if it goes to 13.0. The belgium F-16 block15 is there for a reason and has no radar missiles
like i said 27er sure is a good missile, but even if they dont remove it, you still only have two, and not many planes would be affected, there isnt all that much at 11.3, this solution helps the mig escape gripens and stuff, but it does create other problems for sure
Those reasons are: Far greater agility, greater range AAMs than 73, and additional CMs.
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From memory, there are RWRs that lack the ability to pick up an ER launch at 11.3. Provided you remove the ER, there’s not much limiting it going down, but with ER, it’s about where it can be.
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Yeah, it may result in BR shifting, but so long as it was fine at either BR, then it should be given a historical fit and then a BR based upon that fit. Not the other way round
oh, didnt know that, that does make a lot of sense then
Agility is not much better, its a block15, and its slower, no tws, no hmd… It has double drop 60 CMs same as the mig29. Unless you want to ditch some of your already limited missile count to bring some more. Range between the R73 and Aim9M is almost equivalent. The 9M is better at ignoring the occasional flare or missile at range and the R73 is more reliable at close ranges
I dont think that is the issue, rather you can fire the ER, and unlock, letting it guide via IOG for a bulk of the flight time with no RWR pings at all
I don’t like using the ER, so I am not aware of the various nuances with it. I carry mostly ground attack rubbish and ER just isn’t fun so if it takes up a pylon that could carry air to ground, I generally don’t touch it.
BR compression and r27ER being hard to balance i’m guessing
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fair enough, no 27er, maybe just the 27r, r73, and an accurate flight model, a man can wish lol
What would make its FM more accurate?
Anyway, with r-73 the mig29 goes straight to 13.0, and you already have the mig29g there with both r-27er and r73. Quite decent, a better experience than the f-15a nowadays
Might just be my limited gameplay with the r27r1, but honestly in my experience the r1 is quite bad, maybe even aim7f level bad. Seemed to be quite good energy wise though.
After the R-27ER the best radar missile is the R-24R and then the R-27R followed by the AIM-7P and then the 7F/7M. But since the R-24R is limited by the mig23 radar, the R-27R is the 2nd best in practice.
I’d argue the Sedjil on the F-14 Ali-cat is second best SARH, as it’s stupid fast like R-27ER but also has a big warhead to make up for worse G load.
Aim-9Ls are much better then the R-60M
Having to face 4 AIM-9Ls and 4 AIM-7Ms in a jet with an excellent flight model and radar is just as bad as having to face 2 ERs.
Remove the ERs and move it down if need be but you can’t say the 27ER at 12.3 is gonna be an issue when we already have some jets that are already devastating for 11.3s to fight
It shouldn’t have ERs anyways. They should just remove it and give it the R-73s
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For the love of God don’t
Maybe instead of of asking for BR decreases we can ask for other BR increases, no?
It isn’t right but I don’t think hyper compressing 12.3 works as a solution. Unless you remove R-27ER, and DONT give R-73, but the plane needs its R73s.
You have long since given up on the idea you care for this going by how you present yourself on the forum. You no longer care.
I agree but community is dumb and doesn’t.
trying to act like R-27ER wouldn’t be quite literally two guaranteed every single match kills in a 11.3-12.0 lobby is disingenuous.
sea harrier fa.2 at 14.0 let’s go!!!
(come up with better ideas, this one sucks)
Lmao get real
It’s a very thin BR. Very few planes exist at 12.7 worth mentioning and the ones that do, it’s VERY debatable if MiG29 is worse or better than M2K, as well as F-16ADF or 16AJ
No…? It would have 4-6 R-73 versus maximum of 2 and a way better FM. It would only lose in RWR.
Zero point, makes the plane useless. MiG-29 is not comparable to F-16. F-16 is strictly superior.
re-read this again:
“trying to act like R-27ER wouldn’t be quite literally two guaranteed every single match kills in a 11.3-12.0 lobby is disingenuous.”
Get real, F-16 runs laps around MiG-29 FM in game, even the block 15.
In what mode???
No…
I agree
no logic found, at all. R27ER would massacre 11.3-12.0 as it did historically.
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so you want it to face aircraft from the 60’s?