Any proposal that does that, is a shit proposal and it’s a sign that it needs to be reworked and voted on again until a clear majority (which everywhere is considered to be 2/3rds and not 61%) has accepted it.
Or just respected and pushed through/dropped. Because how much development time should be spent revising something? What if the revision and its new proposal gets the exact some percentage? Because again, you’d have to take feedback from both sides to remain fair. If another 52/48 vote comes in, I don’t fault Gaijin for saying we are going with the 52%. That’s just how voting works.
No, it’s not how it works. Majority is majority
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The old saying of “whether you win by an inch or by a mile, it’s still a win.”
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Thanks to the punctualization. Even if I want this change I will respect that not everyone is “with” me
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You Can also accept this poll
Everywhere ? Absolute majority is over 50%, not 61, or ⅔, and even if 52-48 is not enough, it’s still more than half voting no
in voting, a majority is considered 66-67%
It also seems like gaijin should focus on fixing the anticheat more than making changes to something that has stayed the same for the games lifespan
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It’s more that it’s on ppl apreciation, majority is relative with less than 50 but with highest %, and absolute with 50+ (but kinda foolish in this case since you have only 2 votes possible). And i think 50+ is enough if we search a majority, because in this case not doing the change would be same as no wins, but if it was opposite, it would have changed the results
That’s a supermajority. A regular majority could be just 51%.
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That’s a MATHEMATICAL majority though lol.
anything above 50%, which is correct.
But this is a VOTE meaning it needs to be 66-67%. Imagine if IRL you had a communist guy win over another elector just because he had 0.1% more, this is why this is applied to voting a mathematical majority wouldn’t make sense and would cause dissent (as seen in the whole thread above) and a split between the community (again in this thread)
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Mathematical majority are what i said previously, not your 66%, so yes anything above 50 is absolute majority
Then the Guy with 0.1% would win, it already happened btw
It would, i mean at the end, we follow the majority that is wining, i’d even Say it doesnt make sense to not follow the opinions that’s the most voted
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The opinion on whether a mathematical majority or a supermajority is better comes down to the person themselves
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Here in Italy if no one has 50%+1 vote we don’t go to the ballot (redoing the voting). In this case there 51/52% on a 2 choiche question, so no need of ballot
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This shouldn’t come down to a vote. It should simply be implemented. APHE is completely and utterly broken and makes all other rounds obsolete. To those saying “it’ll make gameplay worse!” I fail to see how being unrealistically killed by a poor shot near the engine bay due to shrapnel magically flying backwards is “good gameplay”.
Seems to me like people are more afraid of actually having to aim more than anything else. If this doesn’t go through then lets make AP and APDS bounce around inside the enemy tanks until every crewmember is killed, 1-shot kills for everyone… and it’s just as realistic as APHE is at the moment.
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Why are you not just happy that gaijin let us the choice for the direction that wt will take. If we look at the poll it looks like you’re even wrong, they should have done the poll to see ppl dont want it. And also we’re not a contradiction short, ppl review bomb wt when they havent choice for game changer update, but they grumble when they have it, because they have it. It’s not hard to be happy that gaijin let us the choice
It looks also like ppl are not agree with you, or at least think there are more importants fixes.
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Okay but you gotta understand that in the current version of the game, nothing is realistic - shrapnel doesnt bounce around, APHE with 155g of TNT with a highly volatile explosive dont cause ovepressure somehow and the crew act as hitpoints.
The problem is that APHE at the moment is utterly broken, and those that abuse it absolutely will not vote truthfully to have it realistically nerfed. If War Thunder released an update where bombers required 1000 cannon shells to down do you think bomber pilots would vote against it? How about if AP rounds as mentioned earlier exploded magically like APHE so Tiger’s etc got one shot knocked out by it do you think AP users will vote against it? Of course not.
Some things especially when it’s widely documented such as this don’t require polls, if anything it should’ve been sorted as a bug fix.
For the reasons mentioned above. Those graphs if true are also incredibly suspect and I’d be willing to bet that bots were involved. Yes was clearly winning for a very long time…
That’s not an argument to not fix APHE. You’ve basically just said “hey other rounds are weak so lets leave APHE completely overpowered”.
In regards to realism War Thunder does strive for authenticity. To make changes to weapons etc or vehicles you need to provide genuine documentation for doing so. If the game wasn’t based with realism in mind then why doesn’t AP one shot kill tanks automatically like APHE? If this was the case people would scream “that’s not how AP works!!”
…Whilst they one click delete enemy tanks with shots to the engine or cupola.
APHE needs nerfing and there’s zero excuses as to why it isn’t other than “gaem is haerd”. To be blunt you’ll still have a more powerful round than standard AP so shut up and get on with it.
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Of course people vote depending their own interest you force an opened door. Persons can vote yes to reduce the gap between ap and aphe, and dont Say these Guy dont play ap rounds. Also it’s kinda short to sum no voters to they dont want their toy to be broken, firstly because everybody has access to aphe shells, and also because they can also want gaijin to focus on other features than this very change, or because they just dont find that current aphe needs a rework, since ppl Always played this aphe, and i’ve personally never asked me this kind of question, like a large ammount of players since it has been rejected, and not for the 1st time according to some ppl here. Coming with this also the br balance, which depends mostly on aphe, being sent to Moon, without any reference to a change of it too in the article, and also the fact that even if they would do it, br balance is still not fully fix for a few year ago rework of aphe.
Also, it’s not by nerfing the aphe that ap/apcr will get magically better. Ap/apcr will still do same ammount of pen and post pen. And also, do not summarize ap post pen to only subatomic shell. Also the realism problem is kinda in the sense that please ppl. It’s for this reason that ppl want an aphe that one shot (1st shot advantage), but also one what doesnt one shot