By definition, it is broken.
It turns into an atomic bomb once it enters the interior of a tank, and, regardless of the area of impact, everything inside is thus obliterated. The shell IS broken.
The same way you can’t have shells that unrealistically one-hit kill everything they touch.
So because you are bad at the game, you vote against… just shoot the front plate with the 9/10 tanks at the BR that can easily penetrate it. Even the M4A2 can pen it from 800m
Yep. Against something like a KT, its even worse- some shells can punch through the turret, but soviet 122s, 85s, US 90s (The one on the M26 at least), and many other guns cant. Right now they can shoot the cupola, but after this they wont be able to- which will mean it gets moved up.
Which is what makes it reliable and fair. If you make a mistake, you get punished for it.
Only non fair thing here is that some tanks don’t have APHE, that’s why other shell types need a buff to match it.
This isn’t comparable by any means. You can’t have armor immune to everything it faces, as it makes a tank too strong. Enemy facing you can do nothing about that.
But if a shell nearly everyone has can one shot most of the time, it is fine, as you need to be the one to make a mistake to get one shoted. Enemy facing you can do anything about that.
Issue here is you keep claiming that heavy armored tanks would become “immune to everything they face” just because these shells would no longer one-hit kill tanks for hitting a corner or the edge of a cupola.
Tiger H1, for example, would still be lolpenable by 17 pdr, 77, 85, 90, 100 and 122mm shells, which is what it actually faces, even while angling; and long 76mm shells would be able to punch through them reliability too unless they are perfectly angled. That is, of course, leaving aside the HEATFS and even ATGMs it already faces as well.
Just because a Jumbo with a short 75mm gun won’t be able to one-tap an angled Tiger frontally it won’t mean that Tiger will suddenly become immune to everything.
If I remember right, the initial reports indicated the Panther was going to be more like the Tigers, hard to deal with but not very common. There were more Panthers than expected and the 76mm was found lacking.
You know a tiger can… angle, right?
How many German mains have you seen angle? Also just shoot for the barrel. Then track. Then hull side.
For the love of god, don’t make cupola shots and other reasonably hard to hit weakspots worthless. It is the only tool available to fight a good chunk of tanks and rewards players that know what they’re doing.
How many german players have the mental capacity to do that?
I took BR balancing in school. Things go up. Things go down.
I’m going to introduce something to you that may seem absurd but however is quite interesting. It’s called APCR and can pen parts of the Mantlet to kill the gunner
Not all, but some of them will become immune to a huge chunk of vehicles they face. It’s not about being immune to everything, it’s about being immune to a considerable amount of vehicles. That’s for example why maus is at 7.7. Even at 7.0 it wouldn’t be immune to everything, there is quite a bunch of HEAT slingers there, but it would be an extremely frustrating thing to come up against.
Same will happen with many heavies now. Maybe not a Tiger per se, but Tiger 2H, T26E5, Jumbo itself, Tiger Porsche, Churchill mk VII, KV series and so on will.
They will not be immune against everything they face, sure, but being immune to like a half of vehicles they face will be enough to bring them up in BR and ruin.
It isn’t able to do so even now lol, Tiger 1 cupola shots with US 75 are never one shots anyway, it always takes at least 2 shots.
The current APHE/armor/weakspot balance is good enough, why touch something that works well?
ATGMs are completely irrelevant at its BR, it only faces that one isreali one. HEAT-FS is still very rare as well- its at 5.7 ffs. Given the massive APHE damage reduction, the side-hull weakspot will do significantly less damage, and if you angle enough you can prevent your front from being penned. True, the turret can still be punched through, but not by everything- stuff like the T-34-85 at the moment only have the cupola shot.
Heavy tanks are going to get moved up because of this, and their armor will be irrelevent.
Basing your argument on incompetence of some small chunk of playerbase is not a good idea
There’s no way people here think APHE needs to do the same amount of damage as solid AP.
Brit mains rlly coping fr
If this small chunk of the player base didn’t exist then the tiger would be at a higher br
AHAHAHA
This is the damage from a 85mm APCR round going through the tiger
this aint doing shit
The solution isn’t OP APHE. The solution is making other rounds viable. APCR and solid AP should have a place in the game. Gaijin’s nerf to non APHE rounds is more to blame for the balance issues than anything else.
That’s because you need to aim
