Make a topic about It and dont cry here. This is a topic about the APHE
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Did you test it?
Cant wait for the “no” vote to win and aphe just gets a straight double buff.
To everyone who are for these changes, watch this video (with subs on)
How would a solid AP and APCR buff be proposed then? From my experience the post pen damage on APCR isn’t terrible, the larger issue is with the formula gaijin uses which makes APCR shells underperform penetration and severely at that for some APCR ammo, for example T29E3 APCR on the T29 is missing about 90mm of penetration which is the most egregious example I can think of.
As for solid AP, do a lot of people not know there’s a mechanic that when an AP shells penetrates thicker armour compared to the penetration of the shell itself the shell will produce less post-pen damage which is somewhat realistic and this affects all AP and APCR rounds. Do people just want unrealistic levels of post-pen damage on AP and APCR like how APHE is treated so unrealistically right now? Why is APHE allowed to be unrealistically good why every other shell type is treated somewhat realistically.
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I am annoyed the vote is even this close. A lot of people would rather have the game less realistic and frankly less balanced than face any kind of game change. They’d would keep the ridiculous cupola snipe meta than play any kind of serious tank combat.
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I just pointed out how a long 88 round in real life penetrated an M26, passed between the driver’s legs, hit ammunition and all the crew left the tank before it exploded.
Not only was no crew killed, in WarThunder it could’ve technically returned fire.
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The vote wasn’t close at all for 21 hours.
For 21 hours, “Yes” won by 70-30%.
However, just a few hours ago, there was a sudden and not-at-all-suspicious spike in “No” votes that shifted the whole vote from the consistent 70-30 tendency that it had had for 21 hours, to 50-50… just within 2 hours.
I don’t know if we are facing a vote manipulation attempt or if it’s just a tinfoil hat theory; but I know that, if it’s really the case, Gaijin will know. They have all the data necessary to analyse and draw conclussions. If suddenly votes spiked by 500% at a specific point in time to shift the results towards the losing option, Gaijin will know there’s something fishy there.
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Identical for Churchill, passing through the side and out the back of the engine. In British testing 8.8cm APHE would not fuze at all up to 60% of the time!!! In American shells you have inverse problem, shells fuzing early and blowing themselves up, leading to 90mm M82 being reliably worse than 76mm M62 early on.
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Ok but just because IRL one time this happened once, doesnt mean in the game It will be the same
The problem is WT advertises itself as being realistic that’s what I’m here for. I’d go play World of Tanks otherwise.
It’s not just the best shells of the game it’s so OP that you get Punished for using any other shell type.
And BR can’t be adjusted? They have to do this all the time with the new weapons they add to the air. You seem to act like BRs never change.
And those are? It’s between nerfing the one OP shell(the minority) or buffing the 10-20 other shells(the majority). The fact is, the easiest solution is always the minority as it is the least amount of work needed.
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For what?)
I’m just giving you one of many examples that gaijin abolished realism very long time ago.
But isnt that kind of a problem of simple penetration calculation and missing calculation for deformation of armor?
and this is pretty dumb reason
We have real life US documents that state that out of 502 Shermans of the 1st Army taken out by gun fire from June 1944 to July 1945, only 579 crew were killed, giving an average 1.15 crew killed per Sherman taken out.
Are you going to argue against 502 cases now?
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Sad
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So-called “free thinkers” lmao
I could say the sky is blue and these people would burst in to attack me and say that it’s actually red, just for the sake of opposing me.
I think it’s sad for a person to base their whole personality on merely being/doing/thinking the opposite of another person for the sake of it, but… to each their own.
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We also have evicence comparable or larger APHE is in some cases worse in damage than solid shot AP.
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Oh really? A shell with 30g of explosive didnt nuked a Sherman like happen in the game? This is very strange…
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Well that I feel just depends on the rounds you’re comparing.
As pointed out, 17 pounder has better penetrative power. While it won’t have more total energy than a 90 mm round, it concentrates that energy a lot more, so more damage doesn’t surprise me.
You have to keep in mind the tests that the British themselves conducted, which, while they do come to the conclusion that APHE isn’t worth it much, they do state it deals more damage.