What would I do to a panther? Shoot the turret and kill it with one shot, or what I do, wait for it to pass and kill it from the side.
Depending on which tank you use, you have to adapt to its advantages. You can’t use the T-34 the same as the ARL, but if you use both well, with the T-34 you will kill a lot more, because you won’t only find very armored tanks, and if you find them, you can shoot them in the weak points or hide, flank and kill them from the side. On the other hand, with the ARL from the front, it will depend on luck to kill with one shot, and from the side it will be even more difficult to kill, since the spalling goes forward.
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You’re not gonna one shot him, and it’s harder to shoot the mantlet than the front plate, idk why are’t you agree
Arl has a decent post pen dmg (even more with 240mm Pen), it’s enough to one shot plenty tanks, and from the side just aim ammo, but the avantage being that with its Pen, you dont need to flank you played it you should know, i dont know what you imagine.
It appears logic at least for balance, that aphe has the advantage of a better post pen, while ap has better pen
It’s not worth it to me. Having a decent postpen doesn’t mean it kills in one shot, while APHEs do 95% of the time. If you don’t kill in one shot, before you reload again a lot of things can happen, the enemy can hide, or another enemy kills you before you shoot, or you don’t kill the shooter or he kills you. The game is full of variables, and APHE wins in all of them, because the most important thing in this game is to kill, and mainly the first shot to be able to change targets, and there is only one bullet that does it 95% of the time, the APHE. That’s why if you look at any player who plays minimally well, and who uses all types of tanks, they will always have more kills with tanks with APHE than with other types of tanks.
You Can still one shot with ap, proof with arl44 that Can one shot what you want, even without shooting the ammo. No need to have a lot of smthg when a little part of this thing is enough. You have like 150 games in arl, im surprised you dont agree
Because if you can’t kill sometimes with one shot with AP, you couldn’t even defend this yourself.
You can’t always shoot exactly where you want, and often times players will take off most of your ammo, which oddly enough makes you even harder to kill with AP. On the other hand, my games with the ARL were when APs were the biggest piece of junk in the game, and on top of that the 90mm bullet couldn’t penetrate the Panther in the hull, like 3 or 4 years ago. However, I have used other AP tanks more recently, and although they have improved quite a bit in damage compared to 5 years ago, they are still at a disadvantage in most situations that occur in a game compared to APHE.
Nor with aphe
It Can happen with ap but also with aphe, that even mean that ap is more useful since it has more pen, ap that pen does more dmg than aphe that doesnt pen
The same thing I’d have to do in a Firefly. Except with the T34-85 I have a considerably greater chance to one shot the Panther due to APHE magically being able to send shrapnel backwards killing the driver along with the turret crew.
Most AP only tanks have to hit the turret and kill one or two crewmembers at a time, meanwhile his buddies have every chance in the world to kill you whilst you wait for his crewmembers to be replaced so you can kill them again… and again.
What does the Panther have to do to the T-34? Just aim anywhere and destroy it. How about the Firefly? Just aim anywhere and destroy it.
We surely dont play the same wt
No that’s not how it works, it has so much Pen that you can Pen through the plate, and one shot the panther. C’mon i know what i Say, if you dont trust me go in shell test and you’ll see an ap can one shot. It’s really Bad faith, i mean Idk who would shoot at a small mantlet instead of a Big plate, just to kill less crew member. you’ve never played a “Big” ap ?
How is it so hard to tell that aphe has the advantage of post pen → more dmg on a same spot, and ap has the advantage of pen → more shots possible and opportunities to one shot. This example of t34/arl shows it perfectly
First shot with the T-34 on the mantlet at 600 meters. I fired a few more with varying results, some bounced off the sights, and if I hit the corner of the turret I only killed the three turret crew. I didn’t fire any side shots because with APHE they are instakill.
With the AMX-50 (same barrel as the ARL), as you say, it gives you the possibility of penetrating the Panther frontally, killing it with one shot, but there are times when it doesn’t die with one shot, if you shoot or if you shoot a little downwards, twice the bullet mysteriously bounced off me, and if you shoot at the turret you only kill those in front of the penetration.
From the front there would be a certain parity in damage, the problem is that the APHE do a fixed damage, if they pierce they destroy, on the other hand the AP have a certain level of randomness, where sometimes they do little damage with which the enemy or his teammates can kill you before you can reload, so you die and don’t get any kills. The real problem would come with the side shots, since the AP by doing damage only from the front and having that randomness depending on which tank you shoot at you may only kill a single crew member, especially due to the fact that many players do the trick of carrying little ammunition so as not to die from an explosion,while APHE of any caliber does immense damage against the sides of tanks, whether or not they carry ammunition.
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why in gods name did you shoot the center of the turret and not the bustle where all the ammo is?
Because if I shoot there I kill him with any type of bullet there is in the game (except HE and HESH), and that wouldn’t explain anything.Although I think that if I shoot there, due to the inclination both bullets would probably bounce off, the 75mm one for sure.
Because either he would kill the tank and give me reason. I’ve kept saying that if you’re in a position where u cant one shot the crew then shoot the ammo but it looks like it doesnt work in this world, and anyway, ap or not, i’ve Always tried shooting the ammo so…
Amx 50 hasnt same cannon, arl is sa45, sa47 or 46 for 50 (depends the variant)
for the front shoot you just shot too low bruh. I’ve done exact same test and i one shot on first try, it wasnt the tank’s fault if you havent one shot.
For the t34 no need to act as if there were interesting result, you just cant pen the front plate, you just killed the panther by the mantlet coz bots are full of ammo…
Well, if I have to adjust the shot, I can also do it with the T-34 on the mantlet, killing it 98% of the time.
Sure sure… Call me when you’ll find a tank full of ammo, and it’s easier to aim with the arl, btw for the arl it would be 2 more %. Idk what you guys have against aphe and ap
Do I need a tank with full ammo to kill with APHE? That’s new to me.
That’s a cool way to edge the arguments. On your screenshots, you killed the panther on the mantlet because the panther was full of ammo, you’re never gonna do this ig coz players adjust their ammount of ammo. If you had looked on your screenshots you would have seen that you had 2 crew alive. It will survive ig, and not also it will, it has already happened to me (weirdly that it never to you…)
Let’s not speak about the fact that you missed a shoot on the front plate but you say 98% of the time, a shot that isnt deadly and on a much slower spot would one shot