Following the Roadmap: Separate Battle Ratings for Different Modes + More Information

CMs barely mean anything if you get a supersonic on your tail with a gun. Which are common in full uptiers vs F-5Cs.

Base kills should mean nothing for BR. If you were getting those base kills easily every match…maybe. At that BR, you are lucky IF you get 1, and dont have to loiter for 5 minutes waiting for respawn. 9.0 would be fine.

Buc S1 is even worse, It is a free kill for ANY aircraft above 7.0. The ONLY reason its 8.7 is 4x Bullpups. needs 8.0-8.3 (Canberras are better in every respect to the Buc S1) It probably also needs airspawn.

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It can’t 4x Aim-9M. Should never have got them and could have gone down to 11.0 in ARB.

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seems that you have skill issue, or you just cant find the squad mark or eyes mark from your teammate?
and if you just using S25O/S13O, its easy to kill spaa when you are 1.5-2km away

Squad marks are a 15+ meter radius, beyond 3km is a dispersion rate of another >10 meters.
The only ordnance anyone should be using based on markers is 3000 pound bombs.

I killed the Su-25 before it reached 2km, and went behind a building using Gepard [it was actually 2.7km].
Welcome to SPAA.
The 9.0+ SPAA is far stronger. M247 has a range of 4km with proxy.
The 9.7 and 10.0 stuff goes out to 6+km.

Kh29L has 186kg TNT equivalent it is even bigger than FAB250’s, perhaps your eyesight is poor, but i can find the black moving dots on my screen and move the mouse over it

Kh-29L stops being guided when the aircraft is dead, and the aircraft didn’t spot me until it was 3km away.
Su-25s and their compatriots are indeed easy to spot.
Unmoving SPAA next to trees or buildings is not.

So it’s better not to die, isn’t it?
i just said that you can attack the target who was been marked, It seems that your memory is very short-lived

The marker isn’t accurate, and a SPAA isn’t going to be marked by ground forces.

The A-4H can absolutely hold it’s own against MiGs and Sabres. It has almost the same climb rate as a bis when naked.

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@AlvisWisla


Why not admit it? is hard to admit that you have similar realistic ground kill/death ratios? is that hard?

agreed the 9Ms are the worst thing to happen to the GR.7

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What does air RB stats have to do with this discussion?
All you prove is that Su-25 and A-10A Late are good in air RB.
Oh, you’re calling air RB ground… sir, air is not ground.
AI ground targets aren’t players.

Kh29/25 has high TNT equivalent, enough to solve the problem of imprecise labeling, and most of spaa wont leave the spwan zone

You REALLY need to think about these changes a bit more before implementing them, these are some of the worst changes I’ve ever seen, Harrier GR.7 goes up but F16 goes down?, Buccaneer S.2b and Jaguar GR.1A are now obsolete as we don’t have any 10.7 ground vehicles, there’s only 1 SU-25 going up where are all the others?? Tornado GR.1 needs to come down in ARB very very badly, why are the 2 premium phantoms 11.0 while the other phantoms will be 10.7 they are the exact same and the SAAB 105 isn’t even moving at all.

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so you never take then into GRB? then all thing make a sence that you dont play then in GRB, you’re just talking on paper

Yeah.

Gr7 Gen 2 Tpod, Aim-9Ls, Mk105 engine

to

Gr9A, Gen 3 Tpod, Aim-9Ms, Mk107 engine and HMS

would have been a far more natural upgrade

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Please consider moving the Buccaneer S.2B in ARB to a lower BR.
This thing is now a pain to grind. They are the slowest in the team, and any enemy with supersonic capability and guns can easily intercept them.
The premium A-10, SU-25, and SU-25K have all-aspect missiles at the same BR, and they all have a considerably better airframe than the bucc.

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yeah, its stupid.

Gr7 I dont necessarily mind, It does have a decent payload but I dont think any of the F-16 s going down have great CAS potential (could be wrong) .

But Gr7 needs its Gen 2 or maybe Gen 3 pod.

But everything else is insane.

Worse than that, F4J(UK) is actually worse than the FGR2/FG1. Less CMs, worse RWR, worse low level acceleration, worse low level top speed. F4J(UK) is only better at alt. But for some reason Gaijin is stuck on this idea its better than FGR2/FG1. Also has a much higher BR in SB too.

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Harrier GR7 has AGM-65Gs and GBUs with a thermal pod, F-16s do not have any of those.

Su-25K’s equivalents are also not moving up.
Saab-105G is already at its correct BR.

@MoZi3
I never take the A-10A Late into ground RB because the F-111 is flat out better for ground RB, and before that the F-4C was better.
Stats show AI frags so you cannot use player stats of strike aircraft.

I take the Su-25K out sometimes, but most of the time I don’t spawn CAS cause usually there’s a Roland up so I choose not to waste spawn points dying.
In-fact, I might make my 10.0 Soviet lineup 10.3 finally since Su-22M3 is moving down, and that’s flat out better than the Su-25K for CAS.

@canta_per_me
It has 2x 9Ls while being a vastly better airframe to the A-10, no.
Su-25K also lacks 9Ls.

@Smin1080p
So A-10’s get basically +1BR step, but Super Étendard got +2BR steps???

Why?
Only 4 bombs at best on Super Étendard, and not 2000lbs ones,…

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