Following the Roadmap: Responding to your feedback regarding the grouping and moving of vehicles in research trees — Developer response

Well i do hope for separate live feedback post on this even tho its kinda getting very sizeable by now lmao if they change some stuff maybe. They did pretty much fix the most eye hurting one and we shall see how the broad player base reacts. Pretty sure it will be added anyway and we have to work from there as you say. I think there’s more of people on forum that play grb only and have few prems here and there and couldn’t care less about bad air changes.

Let’s also not forget how useful it is for Vautours and F-84F’s to have an airspawn to complete Daily and Special Base Bomb Tasks.

With their airspawns removed, game progression is being further hindered.

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Also since when gaijin has fixed their shitty decisions without huge backlash? This is that said backlash we need.

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95% is statistically enough to be called “all”…

Maybe that should tell something about their decisions in the last few months…?

That is maybe the dumbest thing i’ve heard today.

Why should we just look away from the bad decisions in the hope that they might listen to us in the future, when they clearly don’t care now?

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not really. the canonstang is with an alison engine and the c model and d models are with a merlin engine thus having far better climb rate and top speed. the canonstang is perfect where it is. it takes half
the match to climb any altitude and then you can be only a support fighter at most and hope to get a couple of kills if the teammates in the OP russian planes haven’t cleaned up already. and it shouldn’t be moving at all really. the p-51c is possibly the best mustang in game when taking fm, speed, engine and climb combined as metrics. i’m talking RB though, you might be referring to AB.

that’s… what i meant

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yeah yeah, I play AB where most flight models are pretty wacky, I don’t even play US too much anymore as most all the fighters have a flight model resembling a bobble on a string, so . . . not my favorite things to fly. Heck, I even got a Corsair to go into a flat spin simply doing a banked turn using the elevators . . . lol, I think they fixed that, but still . . . really only good for diving on people that aren’t paying attn, not my play style too much. I like turn/dogfighting and frankly . . besides P-39 & P-63 models . . not much else can even attempt it in AB . . C’est la Vie

i was surprised at first, but if you look at AB the P-51 is at 4.0 like the P-51D-5, while the P-51C is a 3.7; so by gaijin’s logic you get the Charlie first and then the other 2;

does it make any sense? No

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I agreed and added more arguments to your comment.

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The Me 410 A-1/U4 and B-1/U4 really do not deserve to be nerfed to Rank II, they should stay at Rank III they are one if not the best German dedicated AT Planes. Its really good for Daily tasks and Reseach.

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No, he speaks for himself only. Just because people agree with his blank statement does not mean he speaks for them, unless you feel like removing any agency from yourself and letting him speak for you.

I don’t understand how this is so hard for them to grasp. Anyone wanting to progress through the South African line will have to eventually research both folders anyway and spend the exact same amount of RP.

Foldering vehicles due to having “such a close BR” is a ridiculous idea. We all know it’s going to take them 10x longer to adjust those folders than it is to adjust the battle ratings.

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its actually a good thing that the 103’s are getting grouped for new players. in this update anything that isnt the first in the group has 50% less rp making them easier for new players to get.

Japan battle ratings in a nut shell, is true for Ground Forces, Air & to a degree Naval.

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I use Mig-23BN cause it’s the fastest bomber at 9.7 2nd to none.
I also use A-4s as they’re more survivable.
Air spawns going away won’t be the end of the world, Vautours will drop to 8.7 and be far more balanced when the efficiency drops.

By the way, addressing situation with foldering and changing vehicles places. If I research US F-16A ADF now, but won’t be able to buy it until after the update does it mean what I am effectively locked out of buying plane I researched until I get F-16A?

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We both know new players won’t bother with those folders, because they just want to rush to the top leopards.

The 50% off is still multiple days of grinding.

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I wish there were Conditional Battle Ratings depending on modules/armaments/spawnpoint so there were less enforcement to comply to changing playstyle everybody used to with no guarantee for improvement and reverting in case of major Frak Up (like with ATGMs double nerf we can do nothing but cope&hope).
Also grinding may become less paine and BR-fluidity definitely will help to fill BR gaps for minor nations.

My un-reassurable opinion - Air spawn is the most powerful ability any plane could posses.

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Modules would have people min-maxing.
Armaments would end in-match loadout swapping.
And spawnpoint makes no sense, not gonna lie.
So 2 of those are guaranteed worse than current.

Air spawnpoint determines whether attackers and bombers with poor flight performance and defencive capabilities (especially under the full bomb load) would have a chance to reach bases before getting intercepted (by MiG-15,19,21 F-104 etc.)

And @AlvisWisla, sorry but I didn’t get any of your counterpoints, what did you just typed there?

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