A few things I don’t like:
-M4A2 moving down to Rank II
-M18 moving to the Light Tank line. There was never any valid reason to change it from a TD to a LT anyway.
-M19 and M42 haven’t been foldered for USA or Japan
-Ystervark/Crusader folder - Yster/Bosvark folder seems to make more sense
-G6/Eland should be swapped around in their folder.
-Warrior/ZT3 with the Striker after? Warrior/Striker with ZT3 after would make more sense.
-Sherman Vc should’ve been foldered with the Tipo IC
Overall, whilst they’re hardly flawless, I think the folder changes are brilliant; I expected something very lackluster but I’ve been happily proven wrong; A lot of vehicles have been moved to their proper lines, incredibly niche vehicles like the S-Tanks are no longer necessary, Israel’s Magach Mountain has been cut down to manageable size and much more. There is an elephant in the room though - Where are the Naval folders?
Very good, all very nice, but when to correct the damage model of all types of projectiles? Because it seems to me that that would be extremely more interesting than having the T-44 100 moved from rank IV to rank V.
It is very good to see Gaijin made efforts on reducing the redundant RP.
However there are lack of LOGIC CONNECTIONs in some group.
Especially in ground forces,
USA: M4/T26&T25 maybe because they are all experimental vehicles?
Germany: Stur Emil shall be grouped with Dicker Max, Marder 1A1 grouped with BMP1 instead of Marder1A3? DF105 shall be grouped with SK105 etc. almost all tier 5-7 vehicle groups in this line is confusing in logics. M48 should be grouped with the M48G
USSR: Same problems in the light tank line. Group amphibious tank and IFVs same to be confusing. Only BMP3 and obj.685 use the same chassis and they r not in the same group. Besides, the SU85, SU152, ISU122 group is also confusing.
UK: Conway should be grouped with FV4005 and the olifant & Rooikat group same to be confusing.
CN: PTL02 finally in tier VI! CM25 should be grouped with M113, move WZ1001 back to ZTZ99A
Italy: No big problems, but maybe move AUBL to tier V and group with T13 is better, there are only 4 tier V vehicles.
France: Maybe move AMX13 HOT to the tank destroyer line is better and group SK105 and AMX 10RC is confusing, considering the upcoming AMX 13 105 in one day.
Sweden: Grouping Strv 81 and 101➡Strv103A➡Strv103C➡Strv104/105 may be better in logic
Israel: So far so good.
Besides, it seems that the same vehicles have different tiers in different nations like the AML90 is tier V in FR but T4 in UK and ISR. The M36B is T4 in JP and ITA but T3 in US
Moving the F-84F’s to Rank VI is a bad idea. They’ll be useless without their air spawn. Please keep them at Rank V, or if you do rank VI, keep the air spawn.
And what is the deal with increasing ranks of vehicles, how does that affect the RP and SL requirements?
Rank VI is generally 220k to 270k RP, rank VII is 340k to 400k RP.
They’re hidden vehicles that have been there since floatplanes were added to ships. Basically only devs have access to them so they can show them off and test them.
I know what they are, there’s lots of hidden vehicles. These three just showed up on today’s graphic, while all the others didn’t (and two of them aren’t currently shipboard planes). Just wondering why.
The French one is currently on the wiki shipboard aircraft list, the other two are not: Shipboard reconnaissance aircraft - War Thunder Wiki. All the rest on that list (that weren’t legacy floatplanes) are not on today’s graphics, just the French one and the new US and British ones.
This is actually a very decent change. And thanks for actually remembering Britain exists. Considering this exactly what im grinding out currently. this is literally a 50% RP reduction for me. This turns the next few tanks from being a 6 month grind into something more reasonable. So… I think its time to research something else, prehaps finish of the SPAA line and wait to get more challys until this RP drop comes in then.
This needs some tweaks, folders at the very bottom (top tier stuff) drops off the bottom of the screen.
Would be good to get that list, I know exactly what vehicles need to go up but that I know probably won’t
Про премы честно не очень,теперь турмс,меркава и т.д будут стоить по 5 к?Сделайте тогда сейчас скидки,люди ждали и копили деньги на день рождение вар тандер чтобы задонатить!И сейчас вы выкатываете такое что будет поднимание цен.А сейчас за 3к думаю мало кто купит танк.
I really don’t understand why Gaijin punishes you for reaching the end of a tech tree.
Just wasted 20ish minutes for checking how much RP is needed for spading vehicles. And its shocking, only basing on BVM tree.
IS-2 (52.9K RP)
IS-2 1944 (71.3K RP) (+35%)
IS-3 (85.1K RP) (+19%)
IS-4M (130.9K RP) (+54%)
T-10M (145.8K RP) (+11%)
OBJ-435 (188.3K RP) (+29%)
T-64A (194.9K RP) (+4%)
T-64B (242.4K RP) (+24%)
T-80B (243.4K RP) (+0.4%)
T-80U (280K RP) (+15%)
T-80BVM (487K RP) (+74%) !!!
This really needs to be changed. Rest of vehicles is fine, but top BVM difference its insane.
While overall theres a massive amount of positive theres some things I disagree about.
I disagree with the Striker moving a rank and going to the end of the British TD tree.
My personal experience has been the Swingfire is better at going hull down and controlling portions of the map so I don’t think the Striker should leapfrog past the Warrior and ZT3 to be the last in the line.
The M4A2 is 4.0, a 4.0 should not be moved down to rank II solely for the sake of being foldered, it should remain as a rank III.
Likewise I don’t believe the Ontos should be shifted to rank IV as I don’t think 6.7s should go down, rather just move it over before the T95.
Same for the Waffentrager, taking a 5.7 to rank III to folder it with the Nashorn doesn’t seem the way to go.
The Rooikat and Olifant being foldered together twice doesn’t make sense, folder the Rooikats and Olifant’s with themselves, foldering the Rooikat mk1 with the Olifant mk1 and the MTTD with the Olifant mk2 is weird.
The Crusader AA Mk II should be before the Ystervark in the folder if those must go together, not the other way around.
While foldering is good I’m not sure about some of the Swedish things, T-34/Pz.IV and PT-76/Comet don’t feel like things that should be foldered together
Im liking a lot of these changes. But there are some confusing folder choices on my cursory glance:
Marder A1 foldered with BMP, and then Marder 1A3 foldered with DF105. So to research through that tree now you have to research the same vehicle twice still with the different vehicles being in folders. Doesn’t make sense.
Similarly, you have an FW-190 A-5 foldered with the A-8, and then a second FW-190 A-5 foldered with the D-12. I feel like the 2nd A-5 should go into the folder with the first A-5 and A-8 and then the D-12 should be by itself. (Or move the D-9 up and put it behind the A models, and move the A-5 back down to rank 3)
I think what you have done with the F6F Hellcats is a bit weird and they should stay as they are as well. Same with the F8Fs.
Grouping two Ki-44s with two Ki-61s is also a strange choice, they should stay with the same type of aircraft.
Just generally some confusing choices like the above I think could be optimised for more logical progression. Im not too much of a fan of the idea of researching essentially the same vehicle twice (even if its a slightly upgraded version) for progression while having the different and more unique vehicles be foldered.
One last thing: Im not a fan at all of pushing more vehicles down to rank 2, due to the limitations of your system for completing the battle pass and events. if this change goes through Id also be very eager to see some refinements and changes to that whole system, such as changing the minimum rank to rank 2 or as a better option, making the limitation be based on BR instead of rank.
Vautours are moving because of AB, they have a 9.7 BR at rank V and some rank VI aircrafts have a 9.0 BR. So it was very weird to unlock them first.
They can still lower their BR in RB if they suffer too much of the lack of air spawn. But it is way more logical this way.
