Flakpanzer T-34(r)

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I would like to suggest this unique Field Mod of a Bergepanzer T-34(r) and a Flakvierling 38 constructed with a Unique gunshield made from plates of scavanged Halftracks.

History:
The german army never could fully close their lines with enove Tanks and other vehicles of pretty much all types, as such lots of captured equipment was often reused as is and/or modified to be better or be for a new roll.

The German army didnt have Bergepanzer (Recovery Tanks) as is, instead they relied more on Halftracks, going from Sd.Kfz.6 to 9, however these werent as powerfull as tanks, as such multiple were needed (especially for the later heavyer tanks) as well as sometimes the recovery was undertaken in the fighting field, where the Halftracks didnt offer any protection, as such over the years, there were some (rather low) amount of different Bergepanzer build, mostly Pz.III Hulls, but some Pz.I, IV, V and VI. However also many damaged T-34s such as this one were used in the roll, with the turret taken off, it had a relatively powerfull engine and armor protection as such was ideal for the job.

That this was originally a Bergepanzer is visible, duo to the spare material on the hull, as well as additional contact points and the new Base walls fixed to the roof. (Visible on the pictures.)

However these Bergepanzer were usually rather unarmed, with 1 or 2 Mg 34/42, with also some exceptions, such as this Flakvierling, or on other vehicles Mg 151 or Mg 151 Drillings or simply a normal 2 cm Flak, with the Bergepanther Prototyp having a front mounted hand aimed 2 cm Flak on a pedestrial mount.

Overall this armed conversion was made with the Plates of Halftracks (so up to 14,5mm armor) some time around May/June-August 1944. By the Schwere Panzerjäger-Abteilung 653

Overall bearing a similar construction to the Wirbelwind, however more flat and with an open back.

Pictures:(Click to show)

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The Vehicle:
Armor:
Hull: As normal T-34 Model 1941
all round 45mm from 45°to60° angle
Turret, different plates possible in the range of 8-14,5mm at around frontally 30° sides flat, back open.

Speed: 49 / 7 Km/h
Weight: Something around 25-26 Ton

Armarment:
2 cm Flakvierling 38 L/65
Unknown ammo amount.
Elevation of -10° to + 100° 360° Traverse

Ammo Types: ApI-T, Aphe-T, APCR-T, He-I, HeI-T and HeI-T (m) (And self destruct)

See informatic topic 20-50mm SPAAG for more info on gun and ammo.

Source:
Munition der 2 cm Waffen
Handbuch des Bergepanzer T-34 (r)
Panzerkampfwagen T-34 747(r)
The Soviet T-34 Tank as Beutepanzer and Panzeratrappe in German Wehrmacht Service 1941-1945 (Jochen Vollert)

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+1 would be a nice event vehicle.

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Would be cool as an event vehicle +1

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+1, i also made a suggestion about this vehicle, but it didn’t get past the moderators.

As you can see on the second picture, it most likely had a crew of 4. And on the first picture, you can see some spare tracks and extra ammo.

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I want so much to recreate the line-up of the Schwere Panzerjäger-Abteilung 653 in game, that the addition of this SPAAG premium can only be appreciated.

+1

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+1!

I love my 4.3 lineup in Germany where the only German thing I have is an AA and a 109! If this is added then it’ll only be a 109 and I’m sure they’ll add a captured plane soon enough!

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A better(?) Wirbelwind! +1 for any of these weird one-off vehicles.

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+1. I quite like the idea, it could be a 4.3 BRish (RB) SPAA, as like a stop gap between the Wirblwind and the Ostwind 2 in the TT, or a premium, which I’d understand but would not mind as a TT vehicle

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+100 gun elevation. Interesting.

+1

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So high that it gets inverted 😂

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I dont think in-game our mouse can go beyond 90.

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Yeah. Maybe in a casemate

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Looks cool but I’m not sure what advantages this would have over the Wirbelwind and why one would chose this over the Wirbelwind in a lineup.

This could be a reason.

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I feel like it might have armor and mobility over the wirblewind. But maybe the turret traverse is slower

No? Its the exact same Flakvierling, it just has a different shild.

Oh ok. So defiantly would rather have this than the wirblewind. I can get more mobility and better armor (to an extent)

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A +1 from me, would be nice to see this in the game

None. It would be inferior to the Wirbelwind with nice features such as thinner frontal armor with hatch weakspot, inferior automotives/transmission, & a smaller turret. Gaijin will probably incorrectly model this vehicle in a Möbelwagen configuration just like they did with the poor Zerstörer 45…
Does anyone know if this thing had worse ammunition capacity than a Wirbelwind?

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