[insert all dedicated ground attack aircraft here]
This isn’t a tornado problem. It’s an ARB problem. yes ARB needs work, but the tornado is fairly well balanced for the BR at the moment. For the gameplay you describe, play SIM or advocate for an EC RB gamemode
If its getting beat out by other strike aircraft im not as annoyed, but it gets beat by just about everything.
And again, that is not exclusive to the tornado.
Everything is, pretty much the only one that isn’t is the F-111s.
Well, in fact, Tornado is quite fast compared to her counterparts if we compare them when only consider ‘heavy, conventional bombs’ as payload.
I always was faster than those phantoms before FFAR rocketing became meta, when everyone was armed with 5x 1000lb, 12x 500lb, 16x 100kg kind of bombs.
unless they take a one-way ticket to hell with
But they always found ways to diet their payload with
108x FFAR(dead now) or 2x napalm
Lightest payload.
Thanks to the current ARB system.
:/
As long as Tornado has AIM-9L with 1200 chaff, she is way better than most 10.0-10.3
Chaff does literally nothing. I have notched and spammed chaff to no effect.
Yeah, looking only at ground attackers. Only that is faster I think is the F-111. Tornado is faster than most if not all others
Nah, having extra 1200 chaff gives the advantage of carrying more flares
(56 LCM + 1200 chaff)
While the rest of the planes need to split 60CM for chaff.
Edited: 56 CM → 56 LCM
Thats their own stupidity then. They shouldnt take any chaff
Also most missiles (even Aim-Ls) dont even need more than 1-2 flares.
F-111F is faster. I heard that
But I think F-111A is [faster at only paper level] because it bleeds speed too much, and the thrust ratio was meh, thanks to the heavy consumption of fuel.
Then enjoy your free death from AIM-9C or R-530.
Chaff might not be as important as flares in low BR
But a small batch is always helpful.
It’s not helpful at any BR. The best way to dodge radar missiles is to fly low, and if you’re flying high, you’re better off pointing your engine at the missile and running away.
At lower BRs, radar missiles (~10.0 to 11.0) are just a nuisance. They aren’t a real threat.
Very untrue.
You are literally saying chaff is useful here. With chaff you don’t have to do any of these, putting you at a advantage over planes with less/no cms.
56 LCM and 1200 large chaff. So it’s even stronger than just that
You barely play ARB. Chaff is not effective. Flying low and notching is infinitely more productive than chaff.
Notching does nothing without chaff. Flying low isn’t a magical shield and is easily defeated by anyone who knows what they are doing. The ability to just switch on periodic chaff deployment whenever your very very good RWR hints at a threat is an advantage that cannot be dismissed. Almost no other aircraft in the game can just preemptively dump dozens of chaff at the slightly hint of a threat. Especially large chaff
Harrier first. They asked for a specific source I tracked down said source now they can fix it.
You are massively overvaluing the threat of radar missiles at 10.0 to 11.0. not worth discussing with you anymore
OP’s claim is quite different compared to the Harrier problem.
He wants to fix the plane which has no major symptoms
Just like
“F-86A need to be 7.7 bc I got killed by vampire.” kind of thing
Except the tornado are at 11.3/11.7 where they routinely face SARH slinger and even ARH from the F-14A.
They have way higher survivability to many others at that BR
Well then why are you using them as a reason why the tornado shouldnt go down?
