Should have expected this type of reaction. Oh well. M1A2 entered service in 1993, Challenger 2 started production by July the next year. Meaning, there is not much time until the design is absolutly locked. But these figures are repeated in July 1992
(here it can be understood that M1A1 listed is the Heavy Common version, having the same HAP-2 package as M1A2)
Further, that stretch capability given to Cr2 reqs (600mm instead of 500mm) was projected to be able to be produced no earlier than 1996, that is after Cr2 was rolling off the lines which discards the possibility.
again what document is this?
if its the swedish trials that get flaunted theyre well renowned for being innacurate…
How is it? CR2 rolled off the lines in 98 not 96…
Know what, im done here, im nto spending my life arguing ona forum anymore.
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You can see the name of the documents in the upper right corner of the page. I´m not posting the full doc as I don´t have it and last I heard the owner had to invest quite a bit to get access.
No, Swedish sources aren´t “renowned for being innacurate” rather they are highly technical and require some sophistication when it comes to interpreting what is stated in them. Sophistication that most tank fanboys usually lack.
Lastly, Cr2 production started in 1993 but was not accepted into service until 1998 because reliability issues. Its protection requirements (SRL4026) had been set in 1988.
isnt 650 for abrams Swedish trial number?
if its from Swedish sources then they stated that the domesticate version of the A2 has substaintially better protection compare to the export version
substaintially meant more than 20%, its not even 10% better ingame
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No, the export armor package trialed there scored 600. Which corresponds to the number given in British sources to HAP-1, somewhat inferior to contemporary HAP-2 (650mm). Statistically its highly likely HAP-3 reaches 700mm.
A little buff would change everything, its missing a lot of things that would make them just as good (Not in terms of armor, but survivability) as Russian MBT’s, its missing spall liners, turret basket shield, and the whole turret ring is incorrectly modeled.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/9pd3QSYFMjsV
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i didnt even know it was TEN THOUSAND
Yeah this is news to me as well haha
