I think it would be fairly logical for them to overhaul them considering how many harrier across so many nations exist. Also there are many premium harriers.
With a bit of luck, and with gunjobs new HUD report they might make some changes this next update.
I hope they do, but I can also see it being a trickle over the next year or 2.
Im just hoping they finish the HUD work they started last major (i.e EEGS, gunsight and CCRP) that’ll keep us going whilst they work on the further improvements you found.
After that, its just the little things like Sooty exhaust that could be fixed in 30 seconds or adding some of the F-117s code to help stabilise the heat sig issues
Yes I don’t think it would be too much to ask for the HUD, blue fox addition of eegs, the sooty exhaust, and finally the AOA to all be fixed.
The AOA can easily be fixed by just changing the center of mass code making it more unstable, therefore allowing more snappy turns.
Everything else about the HUD is just from their laziness imo, they should at least fix that for us.
Turn rates with VIFF are much more complicated and I don’t really see them ever implementing them in game if I’m being honest.
just had a game in which i recieved a r60m up my rear despite maneuvering and popping 20 flares
i have no desire to play them after this, no other jet gets shafted like the harriers do
Yep, If you are slow ISH, then nothing is flarable. Only thing you can do is throttle down to idle at the same time. Ideally you need to keep your speed up above 500kts
lol yes, I just can’t get fully back into war thunder because of it tbh.
The IR issue isn’t even something we can directly make bug reports about so ultimately it’s just up to whatever gaijin likes.
The soot from the engine really drives me up the wall too.
Ohh and I felt like taking some rockets the other day in the Shar to hit some light ground targets, only to realize after trying to activate the rockets ccip that gaijin didn’t give the Shar hud a rocket sight.
Every time I play it’s just disappointing lol.
Especially so when I get into a dogfight with a MiG-21 and the fight gets low and slow and he manages to get his nose on me because he can pull 30+ degrees aoa and I’m hard capped at 21 for some stupid reason….
what the hell lmao, how does this even happen
They didn’t give it a working gunsight either.
It’s just not a priority of gaijins to model the harriers correctly, they are old and they have had their heyday so they are just second rate jets that hardly anyone plays now.
have yall tried cutting throttle after and while popping flares? works well for me in the AV-8A especially with periodic CM on
The issue is more that the harrier is unusually more prone to having its flares ignored whether the throttle is high or low compared to other similar 60s-90s fighters, comedically the opposite compared to irl where the RR Pegasus had a reputation for being colder - even if factoring out that it didn’t have an afterburner.
Besides, the AV-8A is just about the best case scenario being the GR.1 type harriers with lower thrust engines (since Gaijin made the unusual decision to base IR sig on thrust and not irl values) and plentiful CMs, at a BR with lower performing IR missiles.
Not just IR missiles nowadays too, the presence of IRSTs makes things rough.
If you look at a Harrier through Flir it glows like a Christmas tree.
Most, if not all, vehicles do even when they have had their engines turned off for a while after landing.
Airtightly lol.
Falklands map
Will be worthless is the harriers ain’t modeled correctly lol.
they just announced it
I saw
With the next major here its sad to see that the performance still has not been fixed.
Harrier 1 incorrect Instantaneous Turn rate // Gaijin.net // Issues
Harrier missing extreme amounts of AOA and low speed control // Gaijin.net // Issues
Harriers (All Marks) Installed thrust too high // Gaijin.net // Issues
First Gen Harrier STR is underperforming // Gaijin.net // Issues
Which of out of the harrier ones and harrier 2 have better flight performance?