First Generation Harriers discussion about flight performance and capabilities

Also is the British harrier with AMRAAMs and 9m/asraam harrier one or 2.

IDK but probably a harrier II

The Sea Harrier FA2 has the best engine out of all the Harrier 1s and so would naturally be the best in terms of flight performance.

The Harrier T10, AV-8B+ and I think the AV-8B(NA) have the better engines at the moment for the Harrier 2s. Only the Gr7 has a slightly weaker engine at the moment. So any of those 3 are pretty close, with the T10 having the most drag.

After that, its a matter of loadout (and personal preference regarding the guns) more than flight performance.

The Sea Harrier FA2 is a Harrier 1. They were all (i think) just FRS1s that were upgraded with the new radar, engine, etc.

Depends on what you want them to do.

The Harrier 1 is capable of significantly higher speeds in dives and in a straight line, it can also reach much higher altitudes. About 10,000 more feet in level flight compared to a Harrier 2.

The sustained load factors are probably comparable for similar weights.

The Harrier 2 is probably overall better, but it was designed primarily by the Americans for the USMC. Meaning it was optimized to carry more weapons further.

There were a few new build FA2s alongside the FRS1 conversions as far as I remember

You can tell by the panels cut and modified on the leading edge of the wing

Still following this thread hoping to hear good news.
Was playing the FRS1(e) in sim today and had some great fun in it running air superiority.
It definitely feels better which makes me all the more excited for if it ever gets it’s full performance.
Gave the red team a good bit of grief :)
Keep up the good work Matrix and I’ll keep upvoting your reports haha.
Cheers,
Sebdspy

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OOOO:

Gonna try them out immediately. Looking forward to giving it a go in Sim too.
Not sure how much is left to go after this but congrats on getting it this far Matrix!

Just wanted to share the good news :)
Cheers

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Feels like it’s maneuvering like a Tornado — instantly jumps to angles of attack over 20, starts shaking and bleeding speed. Turn rate is low, too.

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Ah great work Gaijin…I swear they would add the Spitfire in a broken state if they added it now.

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Damn i was hyped for a better flight model
So harrier worse than before?

I still recommend checking it out yourselves. From what I can tell, low-speed maneuverability has gotten worse.

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No surprises then

Since i started playing 6 months ago its a game of dissapointment and stuff that makes me just WTF

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Quite a bit still unfortunately, but it’s a good start

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It feels worse because higher aoa/manuverability leads to more speed bleed

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Bleeds speed more, roll rate is reduced at speed,