As we all know most nations must fight against ITO,Pantsir which they’re a very powerful SPAAs, and it’s difficult to defeat them with Hellfires…etc that most of the time its a certain death if you try to aim at them.
Every nation? My guy most of the community already cries about enough stuff and to ask for every nation to get FnF missiles on helicopters would cause people to lose their mind. People already cry about the AHS on sweden, imagine if it got FnF missiles for no reason. That heli tree is already done with nothing to add. So this proposal doesnt really work. America will get stuff you just gotta wait in the mean time literally use any aircraft for heli hunting like the AV8B+
SPAA should have the ability to defend itself.
Idk, honestly i dont even bother with spaa anymore. Ito can only get about 11km out and past 8km its too wobbly. Same with the pantsir except the auto guide helps a bit so the range is more viable but only about 14-15km. I just use aircraft now since its the only effective deterrent to CAS imo.
I personally like using CAP more, but I do tend to get 2-3 kills per spawn in the ITO and 1-2 in the Pantsir.
I think the big issue with FnF helis is that they can carry more ordinance than can easily be intercepted. Not much even a panstir can do against 8 incoming spikes.
If youve played some of the FnF helis its kinda map dependant, though you can play peek a boo and rearm and the spaa has no chance
Yeah, that’s my big issue with it.
Playing helis without FnF isn’t too bad against SPAA. Just comes down to positioning or using cover/masking and dumb rockets at range
Eh, i dont bother playing helis anymore unless they have tandem or fire and forget. Sweden air is really the only nation id avoid playing heli wise considering its pretty weak for the most part. The 8.3 heli is alright but kinda silly with the floaties so its kinda got one unique little guy. Japan and italy start were rough though. Russia was rough before i grinded past the mi4av.
SPAAs are already untouchable by helis as is, the main reason why I believe spawning helis in top tier is a waste is because you’re better off with a CAS jet
And so should the helis.
In the past i probably would have agreed. But longbow hellfires are a lot. Radar guided hellfires would be extremely hard to counter compared to current implementations. So ATM no in the future maybe?
I mean I do agree with it…but not until we receive more proper SAM systems or vehicles like the QN506, PUMA VJTF, Vilkas, Freccia etc…to other nations like the Japanese Chu-MPM with fire and forget missiles and able to lock unto Helis at max range. That’s just me.
Only agree if the heli actually has them.
No helicopter should ever get FnF missiles. It’s already bad enough as is.
fair but thats why I said what I did restirct how many get it.
Yeah every nation, i try to fight against pantsir with hellfires, i get absolutely stomped on.
Like if they actually kill tanks, most of the time they get used against SPAAs.
I very much doubt that, since the missiles you talking about can go through smoke, trees, so the addition may take few years.
I’d rather SPAA be buffed to a ridiculous degree instead of making tankers lives worse.
More SPAAs are coming, people can’t stay with the same missile for years and add more and more powerful SPAAs to the game, AGM144L is the right choice, if its too OP nerf it but atleast it would deal with Pantsir.
Eh FnF missiles are 50/50 imo they attempt to go through a tree and are more likely to lose lock not always but still. Regardless id still rather use a proper CAS jet like f16 and such rather than a heli anyways.
Do helicopter spike missiles get effected by ground vehicles that have jammers?
I used helicopter spikes and they seem to fail a lot of time due to terrain features. Many times unusable due to dense cover like wooded hills and urban maps.
I don’t think adding fire and forget missiles will really change anything. I feel like its rare to see them used at their current br.