I’ll tell you if it’s a game changer on this plane once I’ve spaded it in a gazillion years. So expensive.
Generally I agree with you BUT the HMS is really nice to have with the aim 7s so that you can continue to fly in the “safe zone” below 40m and still lock targets above you and to the sides.
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Eh, i find HMS on planes without dogfight missiles to be situational at best (and on F-4J/S i think its borderline useless) but thats more matter of preference.
Aim-120s are great out of BVR too. They are fairly comparable to R-27ERs at 8km. I would consider those dogfight missiles when used that way.
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I was thinking more of off-bore shots with thrust vectoring missiles or things like R-77s in a knifefight.
At 8kms most missiles have enough time to pull in, but even then i usually tend to give them as much lead as possible to increase chance of hit, so i dont get to use HMS that much.
Also you can’t say Gaijin keep it to reality with the no A2G while they took off the HMS for nothing.
Gatekeeping is toxic and will just disgust people of the game and the community.
No, its just that the Finnish F-18C is from 1994 before JHMCS was created and added to US hornets in 2002. The US Hornet is from the 2007 while the Finnish is 1994. Had gaijin added MLU 1 it would’ve had HMD and a new IFF.
Additionally as the F-18 is now the best Cap fighter for GRB (sweden specificly) even worse because it cant detect K Band like the US model so if a Pantsir sees you, goodluck dodging the missile in time since you don’t know its coming. Additionally it has less modules so its a longer grind for your actual parts to be competitive (side tangent).
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All of that makes it totally irrelevent at BR 14, don’t you think?
The best I can do when I don’t get shot by half the opposite team before my radar catch even one of them, is to kill one or two at best. And it’s because I spam my missiles like a pig before being shot down by some russian extra better than anything else missiles that doesn’t care about me notching and chaffing brutally, lol!
Rarely anything beyond that and I rarely see the end of any match.
I mean dont get me wrong its not 14.0 worthy but the BR’s are compressed. The F-18C would be hell to fight against with a 12.7 fighter, imo considering gaijin is skipping the first unique Finnish F-18 being the MLU it should never have been the 1994 model if gaijin was gonna add a 2007 model to the US. My biggest gripe is that this 14.0 vehicle is just a bandaid so gaijin can avoid adding an actual 14.0 worthy vehicle to sweden. Its just my opinion and gaijin has shown they have no interest in sweden air anyways. Regardless at 14.0 its a vehicle that can fight but needing to defend is harder since you have to pull more to get nose on target so you can feed your missile updated data from your radar which puts you at a disadvantage against every other ARH capable fighter with HMD.
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Do you think there is a chance they update/upgrade that jet before long?
I think the anger is constant and strong when people speak about this plane on internet.
Just read down from there for a little bit. The rough summary is unless your someone who actually plays sweden nobody cares. Hur dur sweden ground is annoying so i must hate sweden as a whole is the majority of the mindset going into it. To answer your question no, the majority of people who play sweden air will do better than the US F/A-18C Late players considering most of their players are about as function as a box of fungi. So no the F-18C likely wont get the Thai OCU treatment and get HMS. If anything i wouldn’t be suprised if the F-18C goes up in BR while the US model doesn’t.
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Too bad I can’t vote on it yet, I guess it’s because I’m too new on this forum.
RWR is different.
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Its because the dev server closed. All posts like that get locked regardless of community outcry gaijin has no interest in adding the MLU 1 and would rather skip Finlands first unique Hornet because we aren’t the US, we cant say it unfair and get whatever we want for air like they can. Im more incluned to believe the 1994 model was chosen because MLU 1 was too similar to the US model which they didn’t want to takeaway from the US as stated by Smin as to why inferior models are added. So again its just favoritism of the US and gaijin continuing to make sweden the worst air nation in game.
Cant detect K band is the only difference in RWR. But it is a noticeable difference for playing CAP in GRB
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I think a dev posted in this thread that they will add another Hornet later in the swedish tree.
If you check the link i sent all of us had a basic agreement. Adding the MLU 2 is dumb. It doesn’t fix the F-18C being bad. It skips the first unique finnish Hornet the MLU 1 which would be on par A2A wise as the US model as it has HMD. Us needing to wait 6 updates to get a vehicle on par with the current 14.0 US hornet is dumb and if you immediately decide to think that answer is acceptable then you have no right to have an opinion on the matter imo.
Gaijin has constantly given the swedish air tree the middle finger and being told to wait for a 14.0 equivalent that skips one of the Finnish Hornets is a dumb idea. And only further expedites the rate at which sweden air runs out of aircraft.
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He is a game master, he has no authority of what comes, he handles chat bans and thats it. I suggest you delete your post as its just incorrect info. No offense, community managers and devs are the only titles you should listen to.
Especially when Shindbee has biased opions and says that the Swedish air players are greedy asking for a Hornet thats on par with the US model when poor Germany didn’t get the Swiss F/A-18C. Yes lets listen to him.
The only real info we have comes from Smin who also cant be trusted as he created a fake name for a Finnish Hornet and only after i asked him did he explain that he was referring to MLU 2. Gaijin has actively avoided saying they are skipping MLU 1 but the fact they have stated they have no plan for multiple later Finnish hornet models to be added and that the next hornet will have A2G means the MLU 2 is the only one planned. Its poor handling of a TT and is only being dome like this because they have no interest in fixing sweden air.
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Yes you’re right, I didn’t know that update would be only in 6 update nor it will fix anything.
6 updates is more so me being sarcastic. Smin stated the next hornet for Finland will have A2G. Then he also stated its not on the table for anytime this year or next year as its just not on the current list of vehicles. Now supposedly BVVD on the Russian devstream stated MLU 2 will be added next patch but i cant confirm that.
If you need proof the MLU 2 is the only F-18 planned to be added
[Poll] Finnish F-18C to be updated to MLU 1 - #35 by PyroAddict
read pyros questions and my replies as i make sure to show any proof i have of my claims. Arguing like this is pointless if i dont have proof.
I am probably the most loud player when it comes to this so the whole Finnish F-18 fiasco is very much something i have a lot of info on as i argueed with Smin the most. I alone didn’t just ask for something to be dome about the poor balancing but again as we arent the US playerbase we cant just cry and get what we want for aircraft like they can. The 229 situation is evidence of that.
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