Final Separate Battle Ratings by Gamemode Changes & What We’re Planning for Attack Aircraft with All-Aspect Missiles in Air Battles

[NestleKitkat]

@Stona_WT

The Battle Ratings of the A-10s, Su-25 and Su-25k, and the A-6E TRAM in Air Battles will be increased by 1 step (for example the A-10A Late will move from 10.3 to 10.7). This is so that some aircraft below the Battle Rating of these attackers that lack countermeasures will stop facing them at all or face them less frequently.

Then, I guess all Korean War jets BR changes should gets roll back because they don’t face against goddamn All-aspect missile carriers.

[tpom]

@Stona_WT

In tandem with this, the spawn points of these attackers will be moved closer to the main combat zone in Air Battles. This will help these aircraft carry out their primary ground attack role at a higher Battle Rating — giving them greater ability to perform despite coming up against stronger aircraft, potentially increasing or maintaining their current level of effectiveness.

Does this mean that airspawns for all attackers are returning or are they planned for JUST the SU-25’s, A10’s and A-6E?

[JimmieJugend]

@Stona_WT

The Battle Ratings of the A-10s, Su-25 and Su-25k, and the A-6E TRAM in Air Battles will be increased by 1 step (for example the A-10A Late will move from 10.3 to 10.7). This is so that some aircraft below the Battle Rating of these attackers that lack countermeasures will stop facing them at all or face them less frequently.

Thank you!

@Stona_WT

In tandem with this, the spawn points of these attackers will be moved closer to the main combat zone in Air Battles. This will help these aircraft carry out their primary ground attack role at a higher Battle Rating — giving them greater ability to perform despite coming up against stronger aircraft, potentially increasing or maintaining their current level of effectiveness.

Now you need to increase the amount of tickets in a match.

[Swordoros]

I guess the Vautour also needs an air respawn point like these. It’s difficult to reach the base as a bomber

[Draconix_DG]

Hell yeah!

[Smin1080p_WT]

@Godvana

Now that we have separate ground BRs please move the 11.3 Tornados to 11.0 in ARB… the guided munitions make no difference in ARB to warrant the extra step in BR.

We covered the Tornados is quite a lot of detail in the previous topic and why we currently can’t move them. We plan on revisiting the subject later regarding what to do with base bombing efficiency: Responding To Your Feedback On Separate Battle Ratings

[JaykeBlayde]

You gonna lower all the SPAA’s BR in Ground RB also??

[Bonrath]

@Stona_WT

In tandem with this, the spawn points of these attackers will be moved closer to the main combat zone in Air Battles. This will help these aircraft carry out their primary ground attack role at a higher Battle Rating — giving them greater ability to perform despite coming up against stronger aircraft, potentially increasing or maintaining their current level of effectiveness.

Good. GOOD. Thanks for that. An increase in tickets may be due, just in case.

[TopperH]

The Harrier GR7 at 12 is unjustified. It’s a subsonic plane with only 4 AGM that flys relatively slow and the thermal view quality is like a 1980 vhs tape on a raduga tv. This plane was for many months the saving grace of top tier Britain and now it’s 0.3 higher. I’m asking to put it back at 11.7 because let’s be real here. There isn’t even a proper ifv to reduce spawn cost and you have to be the chosen one to perform good in challengers.

[I_9029]

why US f16 adf is the same br as 16A in grb when adf can’t carry any a2g munition? shouldn’t it be 11.7 if 16A stay at 12.0?

[dotSHINI]

I mean, that can always be addressed later on. But would u agree that the MFG /WTD61 bein 11.0 while the others are 11.3 is just plain weird? Putting them on the same br for now doesnt hurt anyone until you can adress the bombing efficency problem further

[Godvana]

I feel like there was some misunderstanding with what people wanted though… like in Air Realistic Battle the Tornado IDS ASSTA1 and Tornado IDS MFG are exactly the same. The only thing that separates them is the ASSTA1 has guided bombs which have no use in ARB, so there is no logical reason they shouldn’t be at the same BR of 11.0.

[AlvisWisla]

19 far more than the F-104.
F-104 remains a flying brick while the Mig-19 is a mini F-16.

[dotSHINI]

or adding Aim 9l(I) to the assta 1 and the others and they might deserve 11.3 in ARB

[Smin1080p_WT]

@Godvana

I feel like there was some misunderstanding with what people wanted though… like in Air Realistic Battle the Tornado IDS ASSTA1 and Tornado IDS MFG are exactly the same. The only thing that separates them is the ASSTA1 has guided bombs which have no use in ARB, so there is no logical reason they shouldn’t be at the same BR of 11.0.

This was definitely well understood and taken into consideration, which is why there was a response on the matter.

Unfortunately the 11.3 ones already have a very high efficiency for their current BR. Moving them down as of right now without any other changes would lead to an even larger increase in efficiency for them.

As we mentioned, the feeling is well understood and we are going to revisit it later after the major update and other changes after there can be comprehensive studies into what can be done.

[Bonrath]

9Ds and 9.3 I would support, if given a low airspawn.

[AlvisWisla]

They likely have a high efficiency because the limited players that play them in air RB are skilled players.

[Godvana]

@Smin1080p

Unfortunately the 11.3 ones already have a very high efficiency for their current BR. Moving them down as of right now without any other changes would lead to an even larger increase in efficiency for them.

I just don’t understand how that could be possible though. What makes the 11.3 Tornados so different from the 11.0 Tornados that they could have so much higher efficiency at a HIGHER BR? There is something not right here.

[Hartsy1]

Good to see gaijin putting at least 2 minutes of thought into a decision. About time something was done to balance these aircraft.

[DargorDraconis]

Should i bring my 10.3 tanks at 10.7 for the AMX or Just don’t use It at all because at 11.3 you can Just use the tornado?
Gaijin surely love to hate italy