Finally someone is talking about this. I am so sick of playing actual strikers and bombers and having my bases taken by people bombing in fighters instead of actually doing their job. Playing things like the Tornado, Su-22, F-111, etc. and flying all the way to a base you called only for some rat in a MiG-21, F-4, MiG-23, etc. to steal from under you last second and getting rewarded for very disruptive gameplay. They actively detract from the game as they lose A LOT of their fighting ability by going for bases and often die immediately after getting a base so you’re left with nothing but to get shredded.
Much of the problem would solve itself by giving fighters a lower reward for bombing and strikers and bombers a higher one and then maybe even limiting the amount of strikers and bombers that can be in a match to only four. That way fighters are incentivized to fight since bombing gives them little and strikers aren’t having to fight each other for a base.
To make it worse the player lists when you hit Tab don’t even show the proper loads that people bring so if you don’t see who is bringing base loads at the very start of the match when everyone is on the runway, you have no idea who is and isn’t going for base. These problems have been happening for so long and it would be such a simple change that would make the game so much less of a headache.
Im sick of people in strike fighters and bomber’s wasting spots on my team shooting ai targets instead of actually using them in ground battles like they are supposed too… But in reality the same people cry about planes killing tanks with no counter so they never try so they hate me in ground battles and I hate them in air battles and all is Balanced…
yes let’s nerf rewards more!!
This is just you being upset with an issue and trying to apply a drastic heavy handed and not very thought out short sighted “fix” that doesn’t actually fix anything.
It’s not helped with the bot accounts that do nothing but bomb and then stay dead for the rest of the match.
Thanks for sharing the fruatration; gaijin has an answer, and its “take a ticket to be seen- (pull number 587) Excuse me, can I please have number 5”
F-4->Fighter-Bomber.
Su-25->Ground Attack.
A-10->Ground Attack.
F-86->Fighter-Bomber.
By every standard, the majority of fighter aircraft have been General-Purpose. They aren’t set nor expected to do only 1 job. Their primary job is to fight fighters, their secondary job is everything else.
Strike fighters and bombers existed before ground battles were even conceived in warthunder.
The existence of a plane hinges solely on air game modes, ground battles might as well not exist for sake of aircraft.
And I say this as someone who basically only plays fighters (and strike planes that are actually fighters).
Id say, its Gaijin’s fault that the grind is so unbearable and people gravitate towards the easiest way to do it.
And yes. It is sad to see players in dedicated ground ponders trying to reach their targets. We can only hope for a refurbished air mode.
Im not against nerfing bombing rewards for non strike-aircraft/bombers, but then also introduce the rule of max 4 bombers + strike-aircraft per team, since they dont contribute anything to the current game-mode of air-rb which is overdue for a rework for many many years now, but never change a running system, right?
I also believe its time for bomber-bros to get their own heli-pve like mode where they can click on AI the entire day if they please so.
I dont think thats asking too much for how many millions upon millions they make each month and considering the content of the latest patches compared to years back.
People don’t use bombers because of this.
doesn’t matter if it’s a plane with guns or a Fox1, Fox-2 or Fox-3.
You should be. Negative reinforcement is not a good way to get people to change. We also don’t need LESS rewards… you think maybe there’s a reason all these ppl bomb?
I don’t get why ppl so mad about F-4 bombing when F-4 is a fighter-BOMBER
It’s made to drop tons of bombs and also shoot stuff down so why complain about an aircraft being used as intended
Being honest F-4 bombers I forgive. MiG-23/MiG-21 bombers however, curse them. They have very capable A2A weaponry that they sacrifice to carry bombs. F-4’s dont sacrifice A2A weaponry to bomb. I’d say if you’re flying an exclusively A2A fighter and sacrifice A2A weaponry to bomb, you’re in the wrong.
Sure, they want all they can get as fast as possible, even faster, without a learning curve at all.
If it’s a hightier jet, they ignore everything on their way until they have it. Then they come in the forum and crying about balancing, more weapons and other buffs.
Close, its because the grind in this game is so insane that the water flowing must find the path of least resistance… some of it is what you say but ultimately the reasoning is larger than that.
This will change nothing at toptier. There are no bombers.
The only way to change behaviour is to reward actions to the effect they have to the battle.
this literally already exists word for word
No - you have a limit of aircraft designated as bomber (at prop BRs, 4), but there is no limit regarding strike aircraft. That’s why you see teams with up to 10 Wyverns and 4 bombers - leaving 2 slots for fighters…