Thanks for sharing the fruatration; gaijin has an answer, and its “take a ticket to be seen- (pull number 587) Excuse me, can I please have number 5”
F-4->Fighter-Bomber.
Su-25->Ground Attack.
A-10->Ground Attack.
F-86->Fighter-Bomber.
By every standard, the majority of fighter aircraft have been General-Purpose. They aren’t set nor expected to do only 1 job. Their primary job is to fight fighters, their secondary job is everything else.
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Strike fighters and bombers existed before ground battles were even conceived in warthunder.
The existence of a plane hinges solely on air game modes, ground battles might as well not exist for sake of aircraft.
And I say this as someone who basically only plays fighters (and strike planes that are actually fighters).
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Id say, its Gaijin’s fault that the grind is so unbearable and people gravitate towards the easiest way to do it.
And yes. It is sad to see players in dedicated ground ponders trying to reach their targets. We can only hope for a refurbished air mode.
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Im not against nerfing bombing rewards for non strike-aircraft/bombers, but then also introduce the rule of max 4 bombers + strike-aircraft per team, since they dont contribute anything to the current game-mode of air-rb which is overdue for a rework for many many years now, but never change a running system, right?
I also believe its time for bomber-bros to get their own heli-pve like mode where they can click on AI the entire day if they please so.
I dont think thats asking too much for how many millions upon millions they make each month and considering the content of the latest patches compared to years back.
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People don’t use bombers because of this.
doesn’t matter if it’s a plane with guns or a Fox1, Fox-2 or Fox-3.
You should be. Negative reinforcement is not a good way to get people to change. We also don’t need LESS rewards… you think maybe there’s a reason all these ppl bomb?
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I don’t get why ppl so mad about F-4 bombing when F-4 is a fighter-BOMBER
It’s made to drop tons of bombs and also shoot stuff down so why complain about an aircraft being used as intended
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Being honest F-4 bombers I forgive. MiG-23/MiG-21 bombers however, curse them. They have very capable A2A weaponry that they sacrifice to carry bombs. F-4’s dont sacrifice A2A weaponry to bomb. I’d say if you’re flying an exclusively A2A fighter and sacrifice A2A weaponry to bomb, you’re in the wrong.
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Sure, they want all they can get as fast as possible, even faster, without a learning curve at all.
If it’s a hightier jet, they ignore everything on their way until they have it. Then they come in the forum and crying about balancing, more weapons and other buffs.
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Close, its because the grind in this game is so insane that the water flowing must find the path of least resistance… some of it is what you say but ultimately the reasoning is larger than that.
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This will change nothing at toptier. There are no bombers.
The only way to change behaviour is to reward actions to the effect they have to the battle.
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this literally already exists word for word
No - you have a limit of aircraft designated as bomber (at prop BRs, 4), but there is no limit regarding strike aircraft. That’s why you see teams with up to 10 Wyverns and 4 bombers - leaving 2 slots for fighters…
His wording made me think he meant 4 bombers + strike fighters.
At the BRs where this is actually even approaching an issue, the planes taking the bases from the dedicated bomber type aircraft are usually fighters, not strike aircraft.
This would be massively reduced if you could only buy premiums 1 tier higher than your current highest unlocked tier in that particular tech tree, and to unlock a new tier you had to spade a certain number of tech tree vehicles in addition to unlocking them. Enough of this constant premium spam at every BR range in all game modes, why does Gaijin even bother putting in hundreds of vehicles into the game every single year if the overwhelming majority of people just spam a small handful of premiums and unlock everything without learning a damn thing about actual gameplay.
no it doesnt, currently it only exists for bombers, introducing it to strike aircraft would make air rb way more pvp focused which it should be, just make a pve mode for people who wanna press spacebar on red circle
The premium Phantoms reside at BR 11.0 upwards. Now what dedicated bomber is there at 10.0 upwards that could encounter those premium Phantoms? And isn’t your dedicated bomber a wasted team slot as well?
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This problem would only be solvable if fighters with almost identical performance and relatively equally capable pilots faced each other.
But one, single battle in the game offers a lot:
- high range of br in battle, for jets and above there are huge differences
- aircraft in stock, without modifications, or aircraft with researched modifications, or premium aircraft in full modifications
So it logically follows that there are players who will pull the shorter rope in the battle and they simply have to help themselves with the intervention of ground bases, AI technology…
If someone wanted a balanced duel, e.g. MiG-21 vs. Phantom II, although MiG-21, was originally supposed to be an opponent for F-104, so the closest you can get to it is in some special event, where the player list will be equipped with a mix of MiG-21 versions vs. a mix of F-4 or F-104 versions, only guided missiles, on the ground only zone “A” (no AI vehicles and bases) which will be colored blue/red depending on the course of the air combat …
But, given the number of aircraft in the game and their distribution in the technical trees, the number of game modes,this is simply impossible in a normal daily game…