Fate of the Fleet Legends and pre-dreadnought ships (russian and not only) in the game

I have the honor to greeting, gentlemen and ladies!

The events that blew like such a pleasant breeze from the waters of the War Thunder Fleet could not leave indifferent any of the currently active and enthusiastically returning naval commanders of our, without irony, beloved project.
But who would have dared to anticipate something like this just a few months ago?..The hopes of many ordinary players and representatives of the “repair coalition” fleets have come true, because both the reworked ballistics of the naval mode and the corrected system of compartments have surpassed all the wildest hopes and proposals!

The developers’ favorable attention to the needs of the naval component of the project rightfully instills gratitude for the work done in the hearts of all those who are not indifferent to the fleet and makes us wait for further development of the mode and new achievements.
And the trends sweeping through the forum inspire bold guesses that the expectations are by no means false!..

But what can naval commanders expect in the future?..
Somewhere a phrase flashed that the War Thunder Fleet is waiting for the appearance of naval legends. What grandiose names come to mind with this phrase alone - and who does not expect the appearance of glorious ships of the end, middle, or, perhaps, the beginning of the 20th century?..

When speaking about the legends of the Fleet, what can each of us mean?

Some may expect the appearance of the usual rulers of the oceans; some may expect the monstrous Raiders who opposed them, and was made to rule the waves of seven seas; those who are waiting will not remain indifferent to the carriers of the largest calibers in the history of the created fleet, as well as the majestic battleships that have survived the era itself, which have found themselves on the other side of them.

But if everything is more or less obvious with the main giants, then what about the legendary ships of the Russian Navy? As a representative of the RIF, I cannot help but ask myself this question. Are players expecting the grandiose Projects of the mid-20th century, one of the representatives of which has already become “Kronstadt”?..
Undoubtedly!

Spoiler: Illustrations in the game and in thoughts


Project-69, Kronstadt, War Thunder

Project-23, Soviet Union, hypothetical

However, the battleship “Soviet Union”, which did not have time to be fully realized in metal, is by no means the new thing that earned itself the title of 20th century LEGEND ​​of the Russian Navy in the face of history.

Not the most modern, not the most powerful, inferior in one way or another in quality and quantity, but they boldly entered into battle with a superior enemy and, through the actions of their crews, earned the right to remain memorable to their descendants for centuries; Ships whose glorious names were proudly worn on the cap of each sailor, and in the heart of each officer of ship!



The greatest legend, which did not allow the glory of the Russian Navy to fade even in the depths of the darkest events, the ship that did not flinch from the strikes of the Kaiser’s drednougnts, the Hero of Moonzund - whose name is consonant with its feat - Battleship-Predreadnought “Slava”(Glory).


Battleship 'Tsesarevich'
The elder sister-progenitor of the Heroine of the Baltic (Slava), which entered service at the very beginning of the century and became the luckiest and most successful in its class, the last survivor in the hecatombs of general battles, having survived all the battles of the Russo-Japanese and First World Wars, where it also formed a combat pair for “Slava” - Battleship-Predreadnought “Tsesarevich”.


Battleship 'Emperor Alexander III'
Another older sister of the famous battleship, which heroically led the 2nd Pacific Squadron in the Battle of Tsushima after the flagship was disabled, the most worthy ship of the Russian Baltic Fleet, which did not give a name to the project, but became the lead ship in the Borodino class - ‘Guards’ Battleship-Predreadnought “Emperor Alexander III”.



And in this pantheon of legends there is a place for the most real symbol of the era of the Russian Navy. The guns of this ship, passing three oceans, confronted the squadrons of the Japanese fleet, and half a century later for the second time defended the Northern Capital of Russia from the German hordes - and to this day one of the oldest cruisers built still stands guard over her Homeland - Protected Cruiser “Aurora”.


I wrote about some of these ships here on the forum myself, and other suggestions were made by other users.
Some of these ships have already been approved for inclusion in the War Thunder!
Many months ago, the pages of the old-forum knew the following promising lines…

Spoiler: Considered in the past

Considered in the past

Now that the conditions that have been created seem to be more than favorable for the emergence of these Legends, one would like to ask - what is the fate of such glorious ships in the future of the War Thunder naval mode?

Spoiler: Considered at present

As we can see, each of these proposals has quite a few “yes” votes, which demonstrates the audience’s interest in these ships.
And this is only on this forum.

But if look at how many votes for the introduction of one of that legengs received on the ru-version forum?..
What we have seen allows us to state that these voices not only demonstrate the audience’s interest in specific legendary ships, but also make these ones among the most popular in general.

Especially in light of the fact that some pre-dreadnought era class ships are still getting the go-ahead to appear in the future.

Spoiler: Some examples

Considered IJN Mikasa
Considered KMS Schleswig-Holstein
Considered SMS Erzherzog Franz Ferdinand
Considered HNLMS De Zeven Provincien
Considered RN San Giorgio

IJN Ikoma and IJN Kurama already exist and are doing quite well.

Each fleet had its own legendary and familiar ships.
Do the developers remember the previously stated ones?
Are you, who dropped by to read this thread, interested in pre-dreadnought era ships and are you looking forward to them?

Questions, the answers to which can be given by time and future!
But we can try to offer our own answer.

So, are you looking forward to Naval Legends?
  • Yes! Bring glorious pre-dreadnought ships into the game!
  • Probably. But in the classes mentioned, many others are also interesting.
  • No, the pre-dreadnought era is not interesting.
0 voters

Of course, a well-read viewer can easily remember and offer their own versions of glorious names in the class of pre-dreadnought or other ships of a similar era that could be embodied within the framework of the game’s naval mode - that’s what the comments can serve for!

On this note, I thank you all for your possible interest and attention.

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I think every nation should have their own pre-dreadnoughts to complement the tech. tree and smoothly introduce capital ships into the gameplay, as well as variety in the medium br

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Of course these ships should be in the game! They are truly legendary! And beautiful.

But by the way, @Graf_von_Rolf , why isn’t “Peresvet” here? You wrote a proposal about it too, didn’t you?
She also received a lot of votes and is no less significant.

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Indeed, I wrote in the main text itself - each fleet had its own legendary and familiar ships - and there were many ships of this class among the significant ones.
I would even say “it’s not only possible for the Japanese?” (‘Ikoma’ is available, ‘Kurama’ is available, ‘Mikasa’ is approved), but the list of “passed” already included ships of a similar class in other nations.)

Well,… ‘Peresvet’ is a significant ship, no doubt about it, but in the topic I wrote primarily about legendary ships, and this predreadnought still does not quite live up to this title.

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It seems to be an important and interesting topic, quite a lot of people vote for predreadnought ships suggestion.

But there is some kind of sad silence here, as if almost no one noticed the topic. Is it in right section?..

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could we see saint louis ? i like that one

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Cruiser Photo Index C-20/CA-18 USS ST. LOUIS - Navsource - Photographic ...

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also, you forgot American Pre dreadnought

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USS Kentucky (BB-6) a Kearsarge-class pre-dreadnought battleship (1900 ...

USS KENTUCKY BB-6

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I guess that’s “what was to be proved”, hehe.) There are a lot of interesting ships in the predreadnought class & similar.

Quite a nice and beautiful ship, by the way.)

So I don’t even know if it matters or if it’s important…

Anyway, in this section I could tag topic with the tag “naval”, which I considered a good sign.)

As for the fact that there aren’t too many comments and votes here,… Well, there are a lot of votes in the topics-suggestions themselves.)
Here “Slava” has currently collected over 80 votes, and on the ru-forum over 150 - which is clearly visible from the links. I’m sure the developers are aware of this - although we can remind that we - those who voted - are still here and still waiting for these ships.)

I cannot agree that this may not even be important in principle.
Here, even on issue of the Great White Fleet, one can already assume that there could have been more such comments, if the topic had not been in shadows!

@Stona_WT Please clarify whether this is the right section for the topic - and is there no point and possibility in moving it to a better section?

yeah i just wanted to make sure america didnt get left out :D
i like the yellow white scheme of great white fleet they could fill in some gaps at certain brs offering different playstyles

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USS Illinois (BB-7) - GREAT WHITE FLEETGREAT WHITE FLEET
great white fleet | The Arrival of the Great White Fleet Naval History ...
USS Connecticut (BB-18) - GREAT WHITE FLEETGREAT WHITE FLEET

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i do hope there lower BR like 5.7 and below