Falcon At 7.7

“Gaijin is constantly adding new AAs all over the place to close gaps or at least make them smaller for a few updates now so I’d just wait and things will get better.”

That really made my giggle 😂

You meant for the big 3, didnt you?

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ZSU-57 and ItPsV 90 for Sweden Santal for France SUB-I-II for Japan Ystervark Bosvark and Skink for Britain. So Israel didn’t get anything but their entire TT is rather new and doesn’t really need anything but a top tier AA. Italy didn’t get anything but that’s just to feed the meme. China didn’t get anything but they still have a few AAs planned and don’t suffer in the AA department imo.

Israel is heavily in need of one of the several Light Tanks they produced and many SPAA’s, not just for high Tier - but sure 1 - 2 years is surely “fairly new”.

What about Italy?

Falcon is so op in 8.0, destroy the entire team in 7.7 with it’s apds so it need to go at 8.3-8.7 not 7.7 or remove apds and set it in 7.7

In my opinion, the gaijn should also remove his armor-piercing shells, or make them worse and give him again at 7.7, but the gaijn always chooses a strange path, instead of fixing something it gives a higher br and the vehicle becomes pointless.

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I am revitalizing this thread because its correct.

The VEAK and the ZSU-37 are both 7.7, stabilized, high rate of fire SPAAs. Meanwhile Britain has no SPAA between 5.3 and 8.3 where it has 3 of them, the Falcon, the Chieftain Marksman, and the ZA-35.

Two of the SPAAs Britain has at 8.3 have radar, the Falcon does not. It has slightly more pen and mobility than the aforementioned 7.7 SPAAs but they also have radar which, again, the Falcon does not.

Furthermore Britain has a very robust 7.7 line up already with the Fox, Conq, Caernarvon, Cent Mk3, a couple premiums, and the Eland. It’s a BR that could very desperately use an SPAA and the Falcon would fit there perfectly solving both the SPAA saturation problem at 8.3 and the SPAA drought problem between 5.3 and 8.3.

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VEAK/Zsu have nearly 20mm pen less then the falcon and the Veak has noticably worse accuracy, firerate, and velocity.

The Falcon should not go to 7.7, not immediately, but should at least go to 8.0 and be evaluated there. If its 7.7 worthy then sure, but imo it needs careful consideration.

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How can you say the ZSU-37 and the VEAK have worse accuracy when they also have Radar to compensate for it?

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Yes and even if they are not the best radars (as I have heard) they still give a significant helping hand to people who have no idea how to aim the spaa cannons.

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Exactly, as would anything that provides some kind of “aim here” indication.

In fact with Radar the inferior accuracy of the guns could be seen as a benefit since it would increase the spread of the rounds and with it the odds of landing a hit, and at 7.7 where theres jets one hit is often all it takes.

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Hm, true.

Given all this and the fact that it used to be much lower, I’m fine with it going to 7.7 :>

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Its always been weird to me that people think its such a great tank destroyer… good guns yes, but its made of paper and slow as hell. I see them as free food. Anytime I have been killed by one, any other AA or light tank could have killed me as well.

Just get rid of the HVAP belt and it’d be fine to drop down again. We don’t need 3 8.3 SPAA’s.

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Its not even a dedicated HVAP belt like some SPAAs get.

Skill issue.

The Falcon is exceptional at its current Battle rating. You’re just not utilizing it well.

There are 3 British SPAAs at 8.3 and the Falcon is objectively the worst at its intended role because it’s the only one without Radar.

Moving it down would alleviate both the SPAA compression at 8.3 and the SPAA gap between 5.3-8.3

If you use the Falcon for AA, you’re using it wrong. The Falcon dominates ground vehicles.

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You’re missing the point.

No, I’m not. Some AA are better at killing tanks than aircraft.

If you drop it back down to 7.7, it will just shred everything even more than it already does. I didn’t even play it in its prime and I have a 2 KD in it. It’s insanely good at killing other Tanks.

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Remove his ap missiles from the tape and it will be possible to lower his br