SPAA is a free frag for me when I’m in MBTs.
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m60 cupola is fodder for spaa. T55/62s/centurions are good vs AA.
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Good, anyone knife fighting SPAA deserve to die.
No. Simply no.
The only nations that are COMPLETELY invulnerable to spaa from the front is Russia and china (With the exception of the israeli tiran 6), even the side a lot, but as soon as you hit 1 bullet into the belly side of the T55, its wraps.
I don’t know how you think the M60 clobbers the SPAA but its just dead wrong.
@Wtty
Good to know you think everyone that came to these conclusions before me is wrong.
When I’m in M60 my average KDR is 1.5 - 2; against SPAA my KDR is above 5:1.
I die to SPAA less than 1 time for every 5 I destroy. SPAA easily stat-pads my tanks when I see it.
They lack the accuracy, armor, and penetration to deal with MBTs controlled by players of equal skill.
Currently youre taking the SPAA and a MBT in a 1v1 scenario, whereas this couldnt be further from the truth.
You’re not going to be in constant headon engagements with SPAA both aware of eachother when you’re playing, if that was the case, the MBT would win 90% of the engagements, but it is not (90% is also pushing it a little).
SPAA’s accuracy is just fine considering they fire 550 rounds per minute, where 1 or 2 of the API bullets is enough to prevent you from fighting back (As long as youre not in a T55 or T62).
Speed is what makes these SPAA shine greatly, as they can get in and out of situations they will do greatly in or will not make a difference in.
They are too versatile and are too good at killing tanks. Think of it like this, youre a light tank, but you’ve got 2 oerlikons, accuracy doesnt matter because of the firerate, the armor doesnt matter because everything at 8.7 can UFP eachother, + you have speed to compensate it, and you have enough penetration to deal with 80% of your targets upfront, or as a light tank, you will be flanking and picking people off from the side even better than any other vehicle can.
Removing the APDS puts the Falcon a lot closer to the M163 and ZSU-23-4M2 penetration wise. Hell, if there’s still an issue remove the AP belt. Just leave the default and HE ones. Could easily go back to 7.7 then.
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This doesn’t apply to either the Falcon or DCA, which were nerfed.
The problem is you MBT players want them to be powerless against tanks. Whereas you should be improving your skill to account for SPAA players coming at you with autocannons. SPAA should be there to punish MBT players in the right circumstances, this should not change.
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I’ve got a radical idea - Maybe maps could be something other than the size of a shoebox, so then AA could do their job of hunting planes without having to brawl with spawn campers 90 seconds into the match?
Crazy radical I know.
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Players prefer CQB maps. Same as WoT. Same reason why BF3 had so many 24/7 Metro servers.
yeah thats right. Meta is at SPAA, so you have…not best kd ratio with them? HUH?
Guys i mean i know being a part of a crowd is a good thing but what META is it if you cant even play it properly?
Maybe devs need to learn not to make 4x4km field without any gameplay features rather than sniping beforehand. And make those servers have 25x25 matches before making huge maps?
Its not even funny, each time you get to the huge map you either get sniped from 2+km away as there are no routes on the maps, or you never see more than two enemies. Because big maps = less action. Less action = less fnf.
Tell that to my m247. 10mm pen shell. Shot against the cupola of said m60. Overpressures, it dies.
Theres something weirdly overpowered about the overpressure mechanic that doesnt rely much on pen. It relies on simply something penetrating the armor due to weirdness. May it be bug or intentional.
Same as with the 35mm gepard and itvp. Its an aphe shell, not classified as an aphe shell, that can pen stuff it shouldnt. Because the game code maybe cant handle so many calculations at once. It lets through only 1 shell. Enough to bust the target with a single shotm
35mm rounds can’t over-pressure, there’s not enough filler.
Tell that to Gaijin.
you either havent played against/as 35mm, or just lying, oerlikons can overpressure even top tier stuff like bmpt and t90 tanks
Remove APDS from all autocannon SPAA and fix APHE shells. Bring war thunder back to a skill game.
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cherry picked counter argument, I could take your top tier stats and say that “all top tier players are as
bad as you” and itd make as much sense as your sentence, spaa meta is toxic and my stats dont matter lmao, one shotting t90 and t72 is not something a 35mm round should do, you should also know how much stock grind affects stats, especially on falcon and za, 0 is a big stat-crippler in math in general, aint no rocket science
And lower their BR in the process. Falcon has lost the APDS and still sits at 8.3.
of course it is if its not with you
Well i would consider that a compliment. Playing average positive 1.5+ is something not many players can do nowadays xD
Its not meta, so your sentence is broken from the start. If SPAAs were meta then it would be one of most playable machinery. THey arent :/
I do, so its fair argument. But not with Falcon or ZA.