I don’t agree with them stating X number is the golden ticket. Like you said that would just lead to people exploiting it. What i want to know is why is it all TKs and not just the TKs I made a report for?
Because people can report false TK’s all day. Just like how you can report chat behavior on someone who hasnt typed a single letter in the chat box. That is why there is an automated system. Thousands of matches per day, can only imagine how many reports come in from each match (it is still an occurance but not common to see “Reported for hacking” when someone gets outplayed).
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If a TK wasn’t commited in the match false TKs won’t work.
Do you just assume everyone will suddenly start TKing?
Currently I don’t feel like I can safely play for the rest of the day if I TK someone, and if it happens the next they, I probably won’t play for a week.
All you have to say if there is a daily limit or match limit. If I play 1000 games a day and have 5 TK is it the same as playing 1000 games a month and having 5 TKs? Is it acceptable to play once a week and kill 2 guys every time?
The other way is if the players do some testing. This information will get out.
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If they gave the number the trolls would know where to stop to avoid a ban.
I don’t really know, because I have no access tho this info, but maybe, just maybe that ban wave was just that, a reminder that the rules do apply, people have become too lenient following them, or even push the limits between acceptable and inacceptable too freely.
And let’s be honest: Getting TK’ed is annoying, no? I for one would really welcome getting TK’ed less.
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I hope they get rid of this automatic system. Im a good player and there are so MANY dumb players who fly in your path so you accidentally kill them. Especially when you play a lot the chance of teamkilling increases
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While annoying yes. But for most cases them suffering an SL fine is enough.
But if they have to be reviewed (which would require the scrapping of the automated system) it would still require far longer to investigate each. Plus considering people can go into anyones replays on the website and report as well. I can report someones chat from over a month ago through the replay system. It would be abused, even if it were false, it would be wasting GM’s time having to go back and review each report. Some people (especially when new) may not even know how to report yet.
Hence we have the system now (which we have had since I started in 2014) of any damage to allies is out of the question, and the automated system to detect it.
Not every who does a TK is a troll. I’m pretty sure someone consistently bombing friendly AFs will eventually have it catch up to them.
They wouldn’t even have to review. 1TK plus 1 tk report in match equals 1 TK offense.
i just feel like next time gaijin make these transparency posts gaijin also posts the ammount of TKs committed by those who got banned, so we understand how it works and people dont blindly trust those who got banned (as they present theirselfs as saviours for the community and game rules)
This is what they must do:
- 2 teamkills gets you kicked from the match
- do this again in the next match. (Nobody normal does this) Give a warning message
- do this again: 2 hour ban
- again: week ban
- again: 2 week ban
- again: perma ban
Above can be done automated
And the 1 kill teamkills just SL fines
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“50 TKs a month gives the first ban…”
“Aight i can still TK 10 guys before i get in trouble”
Quite problematic.
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Shhhhhhh… common sense isnt common.
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I am glad we moved from
Accidents never happen
to
It was just a freak accident
Thanks for proving my point, that until War Thunder is bug-free, banning people for TK should be reserved only for extreme cases.
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Majority of multiplayer games do what you described. That would require common sense. We don’t do that in here.
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The obvious solution is community based moderation for TKs.
1TK × 1TK report= 1 TK offense.
1TK x 0TK report= 0 TK offense
There is the real common sense.
The definition of accidents that both of you are referring to is different and I’ve clearly explained what Schindidee meant here:
I don’t care how niche it is. There is a chance someone with the worst luck on earth could hit that mark. Is it highly unlikely yes. But the idea of TK bans with no moderation input is absurd. If moderators don’t want to sift through all the cases (justifiably so.) Put it to the community to have the input with the report I don’t get why this is such an out there idea.
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