The only correct way of dealing with frustration caused by TKers or by “stock plane/tank MM” (I have like 25% WR before I unlock lvl 3 modules in a plane, and it’s consistent - and I’m not THAT bad and stock planes are not THAT bad either) is to invest in golden chickens and grind faster/skip the grind altogether.
You and I are not Gaijin target demographic. That TKer or guy with 1 premium tank are.
How would that be the case? Again, when it was mentioned that a TK is a TK we’re talking about situations in which the players do find themselves in regularly, like dropping a massive bomb in Ground RB or the example i gave above with the fur balls in Air RB. Imho the type of accident you’ve shown in that video does not happen regularly enough to consider it an issue. Seriously it’s something that the VAST majority of the players have never encountered. I’m not saying that you CAN do that regularly (TL;DR, reproduce what happened in the video with malicious intent), I’m simply saying that you’re tunnel visioned on an extremely niche case.
So now you expect us to trust some TK number metric to judge team kills fairly?
As loofah said why even have moderators then?
We’re discussing about this, i guess you weren’t the one that linked it, still.
Yes, they would get a sl penalty. Just like what has been happens for years.
Yes, if this happened like 6 times a day, they would get a ban. Luckly, you basically have to try to get that many tks.
No, a freak coincident was shown to make a point…
I think the issue is that some people looked at the “we punish all tks” thing and went to the extreme of “gaijin will give the same punishment to all tks”
I guess they forgot that you just get sl penaties for the rare unintentional while intentional are given bans.
Nail on the head. That statement is a zero tolerance statement.
Not forgotten just shows double punishment under for an undetermined amount. It is understandable not sharing the amount but if things aren’t being taken into consideration why have moderators just AI it.
What surprises me in this whole discussion is that TK’s were forbidden since the beginning, TK were punished when they met certain criteria since, what , over a decade, and people act shocked and surprised about punishment of TK’s.
And it was always “all TK’s are forbidden”, but never “all TK’s are punished”.
Stona made the comment you admitted to TKing 2 people so your ban is justifed in a reply to a guy saying he accidentally TKed 2 people 1 match. Now it is obvious he did more then that to get his ban. But rather than saying you clearly had done more than that to earn that ban he went with that is enough.
That is a really low metric if in his opinion that is enough.
They just have to come out and say what is an acceptable amount, because currently some people baselessly saying a few TKs won’t get you a perma ban is not enough to give confidence. We simply don’t know if it is safe to play multiple games a day or if you had an accidentally TK you are better off taking a week of vacation because it might get you a perma the next time.
-We don’t know what the metric is for TKing
-We don’t know if there is a limit on game time or real time
-We don’t know if there is a limit on max numbers
-We don’t even know if 1-2 teamkills are actually acceptable
-We don’t know if the bans stack up eventually getting a perma even if you only qualify for 1 day for the actual offense
What we know is:
-Intent doesn’t matter, if the system detects you TK’d it will count against you
-There is a possibility of permanent bans
-Each case is most likely not reviewed by a person
Currently it is extremely uncertain what will get you banned, and if it will eventually get you permanently banned.
How was it punished? This is the first time I was banned from the game.
Right, so they say “you are allowed x TK’s in y days”…
What will the community do? TK even more freely, just being careful not to exceed the x TK in y days rule…
But that shouldnt be a surprise. Gamers these days think “Rules dont apply” in many cases. Just yesterday on another online game, one guy quite literally made the comment “I make my own rules, I dont care what anyone else thinks”… before they were banned rofl. This guy had almost 2000 hours playing that one game (a certain space game where you dont even have to deal with other players if you dont want to).
I don’t agree with them stating X number is the golden ticket. Like you said that would just lead to people exploiting it. What i want to know is why is it all TKs and not just the TKs I made a report for?
Because people can report false TK’s all day. Just like how you can report chat behavior on someone who hasnt typed a single letter in the chat box. That is why there is an automated system. Thousands of matches per day, can only imagine how many reports come in from each match (it is still an occurance but not common to see “Reported for hacking” when someone gets outplayed).
If a TK wasn’t commited in the match false TKs won’t work.
Do you just assume everyone will suddenly start TKing?
Currently I don’t feel like I can safely play for the rest of the day if I TK someone, and if it happens the next they, I probably won’t play for a week.
All you have to say if there is a daily limit or match limit. If I play 1000 games a day and have 5 TK is it the same as playing 1000 games a month and having 5 TKs? Is it acceptable to play once a week and kill 2 guys every time?
The other way is if the players do some testing. This information will get out.
If they gave the number the trolls would know where to stop to avoid a ban.
I don’t really know, because I have no access tho this info, but maybe, just maybe that ban wave was just that, a reminder that the rules do apply, people have become too lenient following them, or even push the limits between acceptable and inacceptable too freely.
And let’s be honest: Getting TK’ed is annoying, no? I for one would really welcome getting TK’ed less.