I hope they get rid of this automatic system. Im a good player and there are so MANY dumb players who fly in your path so you accidentally kill them. Especially when you play a lot the chance of teamkilling increases
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While annoying yes. But for most cases them suffering an SL fine is enough.
But if they have to be reviewed (which would require the scrapping of the automated system) it would still require far longer to investigate each. Plus considering people can go into anyones replays on the website and report as well. I can report someones chat from over a month ago through the replay system. It would be abused, even if it were false, it would be wasting GM’s time having to go back and review each report. Some people (especially when new) may not even know how to report yet.
Hence we have the system now (which we have had since I started in 2014) of any damage to allies is out of the question, and the automated system to detect it.
Not every who does a TK is a troll. I’m pretty sure someone consistently bombing friendly AFs will eventually have it catch up to them.
They wouldn’t even have to review. 1TK plus 1 tk report in match equals 1 TK offense.
i just feel like next time gaijin make these transparency posts gaijin also posts the ammount of TKs committed by those who got banned, so we understand how it works and people dont blindly trust those who got banned (as they present theirselfs as saviours for the community and game rules)
This is what they must do:
- 2 teamkills gets you kicked from the match
- do this again in the next match. (Nobody normal does this) Give a warning message
- do this again: 2 hour ban
- again: week ban
- again: 2 week ban
- again: perma ban
Above can be done automated
And the 1 kill teamkills just SL fines
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“50 TKs a month gives the first ban…”
“Aight i can still TK 10 guys before i get in trouble”
Quite problematic.
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Shhhhhhh… common sense isnt common.
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I am glad we moved from
Accidents never happen
to
It was just a freak accident
Thanks for proving my point, that until War Thunder is bug-free, banning people for TK should be reserved only for extreme cases.
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Majority of multiplayer games do what you described. That would require common sense. We don’t do that in here.
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The obvious solution is community based moderation for TKs.
1TK × 1TK report= 1 TK offense.
1TK x 0TK report= 0 TK offense
There is the real common sense.
The definition of accidents that both of you are referring to is different and I’ve clearly explained what Schindidee meant here:
I don’t care how niche it is. There is a chance someone with the worst luck on earth could hit that mark. Is it highly unlikely yes. But the idea of TK bans with no moderation input is absurd. If moderators don’t want to sift through all the cases (justifiably so.) Put it to the community to have the input with the report I don’t get why this is such an out there idea.
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Except it was already put into the rules over 10 years ago. It has always been in the rules. Just because people became comfortable with not getting into trouble doesnt mean they will rework the whole system now.
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Noone has a problem with the rule existing. The issue is the lack of involvement.
That whole statement negates itself. The rule existing states that it is an automated system… but if the issue is lack of involvement, how does that change the fact that the rule states any team damage (not even just team kills) is a violation of 3.1? Just because nobody reports someone being shot in the face doesnt make it okay for them to be shot in the face…
Because the rule falls under unsportsmanlike conduct and not all TKs are unsportsmanlike.
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But if it was self defense it does.
3. DAMAGE TO TEAMMATES, “FRIENDLY FIRE”
3.1. These War Thunder specific rules expressly prohibit causing damage to teammates or so-called “friendly fire” in a Game, including, without limitation, the following actions: inflicting damage to teammates’ vehicles or any of their parts, destroying teammates’ vehicles or any of its parts, disorienting teammates. Please note that damaging teammates is forbidden even if the damaging functionality is technically allowed in a Game.
3.2. The sanctions for violating the above-mentioned rule are automatically imposed by the in-game system that analyzes the Player’s in-game behavior. In exceptional cases, the Administration may manually evaluate the alleged violation and set the corresponding sanction.
3.3. The rule in paragraph 3.1 above also applies to certain Game events (official streams, championships, etc.) officially announced and sanctioned by the Administration. In some cases, during such Game events, the in-game punishment system mentioned above may be disabled, and the participants will not be punished for minor or insignificant violations. However, the Administration may always impose the Game Access Restriction for a period from 3 to 7 days on a Player who causes damage or destroys a teammate during such Game events.
These arent unsportsman like conduct rules… these are black and white, in text, rules…