I would assume the jadgtiger had to pay sl. Unless the plane was kind enough to accept the apology.
We’re talking about an extremely niche case here, the accident that Schindibee was referring to is most likely the classic air rb match with 5 allies chasing the last enemy and one of them, probably the last one of the bunch, fires an IR intended for the enemy that picks up the allied IR signature instead. It is an accident, completely avoidable.
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The issue is. That is still a TK and by the community mangers own word a TK is a TK. So enough of these crazy moments would be a ban.
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That “non illegal action” is annoying and malicious. But we’ve already established you are just following the “rules”, doesn’t matter if it’s self defence, doesn’t matter of some player is griefing and intentionaly ruining the game for others - all that counts is “the rules”, so we can replace actual mods using their brains with a trained rats or AI, that just bans the “offender”, which actually feeds the trolls and griefers even more, as Gaijin further bullies their victims for fighting back.
I know exactly where it comes from, but won’t point at a map, to not get banned.
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These moments do not even remotely happen enough for you to get a ban. If they were to happen enough for a ban to happen at that point it would be some sort of pattern. In 2500+ hours of playing the game I’ve never had that kind of thing happen to me.
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You are purposely missing the point.
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The only correct way of dealing with frustration caused by TKers or by “stock plane/tank MM” (I have like 25% WR before I unlock lvl 3 modules in a plane, and it’s consistent - and I’m not THAT bad and stock planes are not THAT bad either) is to invest in golden chickens and grind faster/skip the grind altogether.
You and I are not Gaijin target demographic. That TKer or guy with 1 premium tank are.
How would that be the case? Again, when it was mentioned that a TK is a TK we’re talking about situations in which the players do find themselves in regularly, like dropping a massive bomb in Ground RB or the example i gave above with the fur balls in Air RB. Imho the type of accident you’ve shown in that video does not happen regularly enough to consider it an issue. Seriously it’s something that the VAST majority of the players have never encountered. I’m not saying that you CAN do that regularly (TL;DR, reproduce what happened in the video with malicious intent), I’m simply saying that you’re tunnel visioned on an extremely niche case.
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- I didn’t show a video.
- The issue everyone has is WT is a buggy mess and rather then fixing a major bug from 3 years ago Gaijin adds motion blur.
So now you expect us to trust some TK number metric to judge team kills fairly?
As loofah said why even have moderators then?
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We’re discussing about this, i guess you weren’t the one that linked it, still.
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Yes, they would get a sl penalty. Just like what has been happens for years.
Yes, if this happened like 6 times a day, they would get a ban. Luckly, you basically have to try to get that many tks.
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No, a freak coincident was shown to make a point…
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I think the issue is that some people looked at the “we punish all tks” thing and went to the extreme of “gaijin will give the same punishment to all tks”
I guess they forgot that you just get sl penaties for the rare unintentional while intentional are given bans.
Nail on the head. That statement is a zero tolerance statement.
Not forgotten just shows double punishment under for an undetermined amount. It is understandable not sharing the amount but if things aren’t being taken into consideration why have moderators just AI it.
What surprises me in this whole discussion is that TK’s were forbidden since the beginning, TK were punished when they met certain criteria since, what , over a decade, and people act shocked and surprised about punishment of TK’s.
And it was always “all TK’s are forbidden”, but never “all TK’s are punished”.
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Stona made the comment you admitted to TKing 2 people so your ban is justifed in a reply to a guy saying he accidentally TKed 2 people 1 match. Now it is obvious he did more then that to get his ban. But rather than saying you clearly had done more than that to earn that ban he went with that is enough.
That is a really low metric if in his opinion that is enough.
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They just have to come out and say what is an acceptable amount, because currently some people baselessly saying a few TKs won’t get you a perma ban is not enough to give confidence. We simply don’t know if it is safe to play multiple games a day or if you had an accidentally TK you are better off taking a week of vacation because it might get you a perma the next time.
-We don’t know what the metric is for TKing
-We don’t know if there is a limit on game time or real time
-We don’t know if there is a limit on max numbers
-We don’t even know if 1-2 teamkills are actually acceptable
-We don’t know if the bans stack up eventually getting a perma even if you only qualify for 1 day for the actual offense
What we know is:
-Intent doesn’t matter, if the system detects you TK’d it will count against you
-There is a possibility of permanent bans
-Each case is most likely not reviewed by a person
Currently it is extremely uncertain what will get you banned, and if it will eventually get you permanently banned.
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How was it punished? This is the first time I was banned from the game.
Right, so they say “you are allowed x TK’s in y days”…
What will the community do? TK even more freely, just being careful not to exceed the x TK in y days rule…
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But that shouldnt be a surprise. Gamers these days think “Rules dont apply” in many cases. Just yesterday on another online game, one guy quite literally made the comment “I make my own rules, I dont care what anyone else thinks”… before they were banned rofl. This guy had almost 2000 hours playing that one game (a certain space game where you dont even have to deal with other players if you dont want to).