Take it a step further and make teamkills not count “vehicle destroyed” for statistics. And if people try to cheat the enemy out of a kill by Tk’ing, make it so that an aircraft/vehicle has any enemy damage before a TK, the kill credit goes to the enemy and the TK’er still gets flagged.
I’m afraid it would fall under those exploiting cases such as stat-boosting, simply have a teammate TK you in case of “already lost games” and avoid that death over and over.
How’s that any different from current players hiding behind their base AA (flying around, not on the ground) when they’re the last player?
Why is it that every time a player suggests an improvement to the current game/situation, some mod immediately shuts it down with a counter argument that a minority of players would do? Realistically, if someone does do that, that is why you still have the report button so you all can review that exploit.
Not trying to sound rude, just trying to help improve the game considering how long many of us have played, we have seen some things in our experiences.
It simply is exploitable, same issue with boosters. If we were to listen to the players that asked to get their boosters back if someone teamkills them… once again a squad mate teamkills you when the match goes south, you get the booster back for free and it just creates an exploitable behavior.
Plus, why would Gaijin refund something that you could spend IRL currency on? Considering you can buy boosters for GE. They have a monetary reason to deny as much as possible.
you shouldn’t blame the moderator for shutting it down, it’s because of the small group of players that exploit it/would exploit it that prevent it from being added
So, explain how I’m supposed to control team mates ? I’ll wait. I don’t generally ask for help from team mates, especially in air sim. Because when your dog fighting and another random fighter appears out of nowhere, you’ll automatically assume its enemy.
Unless, your perfect in every way, which you seem to insinuate.
Yet… death threats against me are okay.
Because my team mate sacrificed me to the enemy so he could get a kill and I told him to uninstall, but I got a chat ban, and he got nothing…
How will the team deal with that kind of team killing? Where:
A: the team mate is actively looking at someone but doesn’t tell the team someone’s there, and then lets you to push out to get hit, so they get the kill?
Or,
B: being pushed into battle when you attempt to retreat just to get blasted then the team mate who pushed you gets kills?
proves that the threshold for triggering the auto-ban functionality was far too low in the past. So if you now get a temp ban with the same play style you simply did not care about the necessity to avoid killing team mates (enough).
But this is just partly a “you” issue - i see gaijin here in the driver seat simply because their auto-ban system was dysfunctional.
Evidence? Look at this:
All of this happened in a few days - not months…
As a pure Air RB player i am extremely happy that gaijin is trying to stop this team killing madness…
Nothing - they won’t get a perma ban as long as they improve (=less tk than before) and continue spending money. If you check the team kill tab again - just one guy got a perma ban.
Don’t put words in my mouth, they were primarily avenging kills and defensive TK’s as that was the norm and culture back then just like any other game. Much similar to pinging the base you are going to bomb or people waiting for more players to start capping a point. When the game became more popular and more people started playing, those habits became less and less frequent. Players TKing at the start of the game are just trolls but most TKs likely come from shooting that TKer and stopping them which as I said, was the norm of the player base.
And as I stated, just a splash page stating clarification of any TKing was unacceptable would’ve worked. Ban should have been used about three weeks later starting from warning date and been progressive punishment.
There was a page about it… from over a decade ago that is still available… called the rules. Just because people didnt bother read them doesnt make them poor innocent victims of a ban wave.
Now everyone (even those who couldnt be bothered to understand that it was against the rules) now know for sure it is against the rules. Too bad, so sad, they can move on and continue to their next ban or stop making poor decisions.
I respect your faith in gaijin’s playerbase - but as long as guys like described in this thread:
which simply played around the way too high threshold of the auto-ban system are still active in wt i can not share your pov.
It was not my intention to attack you - or assign certain wordings to you.
But as long as you post things like this:
…and you state that you received a 3 day temp ban - you simply contradict yourself. So either your habits are still producing so much harm to friendlies that you got caught by the current ban wave - or gaijin made a mistake by banning you. Technically seen no other explanation possible…
Of course - just business decisions and fully comprehensible if you think about it. Even in this thread there was a GM stating that TKs produced just temp bans.
Why do you think it took so long to ban thousands of players with bot scripts active in Air RB? Even an 8 year old was able to identify them by their stats and lack of control inputs during their base bombing runs. Those guys brought in money as they flew mainly premium B-25s or Ju 288s…
Just look at yt - you will find dozens of high quality (and copyright protected) movies on yt. I watched Deadpool 3 in July / August 3 times there. YT could easily prevent this (they just delete the movies after a few days), but they gain add revenues like hell with them…
That’s two different examples. Aswell Gaijin has the opportunity to gain more revenue by perma banning if the player creates a new account. So once again this is all just assumptions.
Meanwhile the moderators have came in and drawn a hardline with statements that go along zero tolerance stating that even unintentional TKs are a bannable offense.
People learning how dangerous Fox-1 missiles are to friendlies should not be banned especially with Gaijin green lighting buying into top tier.
it isnt the moderators just saying that. That has been the rule for over 10 years… it has been posted by gaijin for over 10 years that damaging teammates… not even teamkilling, just damaging, is punishable up to a ban.