That is an assumptive statement.
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I respect your faith in gaijin’s playerbase - but as long as guys like described in this thread:
which simply played around the way too high threshold of the auto-ban system are still active in wt i can not share your pov.
It was not my intention to attack you - or assign certain wordings to you.
But as long as you post things like this:
…and you state that you received a 3 day temp ban - you simply contradict yourself. So either your habits are still producing so much harm to friendlies that you got caught by the current ban wave - or gaijin made a mistake by banning you. Technically seen no other explanation possible…
Of course - just business decisions and fully comprehensible if you think about it. Even in this thread there was a GM stating that TKs produced just temp bans.
Why do you think it took so long to ban thousands of players with bot scripts active in Air RB? Even an 8 year old was able to identify them by their stats and lack of control inputs during their base bombing runs. Those guys brought in money as they flew mainly premium B-25s or Ju 288s…
Just look at yt - you will find dozens of high quality (and copyright protected) movies on yt. I watched Deadpool 3 in July / August 3 times there. YT could easily prevent this (they just delete the movies after a few days), but they gain add revenues like hell with them…
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That’s two different examples. Aswell Gaijin has the opportunity to gain more revenue by perma banning if the player creates a new account. So once again this is all just assumptions.
Meanwhile the moderators have came in and drawn a hardline with statements that go along zero tolerance stating that even unintentional TKs are a bannable offense.
People learning how dangerous Fox-1 missiles are to friendlies should not be banned especially with Gaijin green lighting buying into top tier.
it isnt the moderators just saying that. That has been the rule for over 10 years… it has been posted by gaijin for over 10 years that damaging teammates… not even teamkilling, just damaging, is punishable up to a ban.
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This looks like a far stretch - no sane player will risk an account with a substantial investment - and invest the same amount (and time) just to lose it again due to missing trigger discipline or intentional trolling.
And the underlying purpose of botting was different from reckless game play (either automated progress or selling the account) - u see some of those players from time to time; they play very good - despite having a long-term KpB ratio of 0.07 thanks to thousands of bomber sorties…
You might argue that real trolls can open a new account and get to rank III / IV in a few hours, but they won’t risk their main account with hundreds of planes.
Imho you mix up an educated guess from me with a opinion based but fact-free assumption.
But i agree to disagree.
The dose makes the poison.
We have several “confessions” of guys with team kills in the recent past in this thread - and they were not banned.
Stop hand holding - a guy able to get a 70-80$ premium plane is fully capable to go to yt and learn how to use his weapon system.
But i see gaijin here in the driver seat - they have to provide actually useful tutorials on the UI of the hangar screen and make them mandatory for rookies. Same as fixing IFF issues for SB pilots and rogue AAMs.
Just no. Maybe online gaming is not for you, because you are clearly hating people having dfun and your sensitivity is extreme. And all of that in a game where you knock people unconsxious by hitting them in the back of the head with 30mm HE.
People will do stupid things. But it’s not a big issue anyway.
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assumption noun (BELIEF)
something that you accept as true without question or proof
There is no proof that the previous bans will not effect bans in the future. So yes an assumption.
Without seeing the metric I don’t really care. Moderators have made statements along the lines of zero tolerance. So the question comes did they fall through the cracks? As well the bans don’t seem to be instantaneous just wait till X time period and then blanket drop. So there is no real way of knowing what TKs counted and what hasn’t.
I understand the desire not to let people know what they can get away with but without a moderator stepping back those comments blow smoke.
Take my comment to the extreme why don’t you? Players are already fined for TKing in matches banning them afterward for Gaijin allowing them an easy pass into top tier is just Double Jeopardy.
I also question how many times someone might TK until they look into why is their missiles not going onto their locked target? Will they get a ban before they learn of the reason?
If Gaijin didn’t allow for buying to top tier this wouldn’t be an issue.
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This whole thing created a situation for me I think highlighted how absurd leaving context out of it can be;
I was playing a match with a good mate yesterday, a point came where he had enemy on his six and asked me, as his wingman, To save him (to paraphrase his colourful language), I had a good position behind the enemy, but also it meant if I fired a missile at them or shot at them I had a slight chance at killing my mate too should the enemy somehow evade.
What it came down to ultimately was to choose between either letting my wingman and actual mate get killed by the player chasing them for sure or take the opportunity to probably save them, but also risk a teamkill in doing so.
Either way he’d end up dead potentially but less of a chance with one way over another.
I hesitated because of not wanting to teamkill and knowing context doesn’t matter and we went a team member down as a result
We fly in squad often, so should I risk getting teamkills and likely save a teammate in this moments, or just ignore it and choose to let them die?
They both add up to the same thing really, allowing the team to intentionally lose a player and tickets.
Also this also highlights the hesitation and the less relaxed way I now play the game with as a result of this lack of context being allowed.
The game is suddenly less fun to play because of that, and that makes me want to spend less money on it if any at all tbh too
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No offense, but if i write:
this has to be seen as the polite version of “whatever you say, idc”.
Therefore a more direct hint as response:
know-it-all (plural know-it-alls)
- (chiefly US, derogatory) Someone who claims to be knowledgeable or an expert in something, obnoxiously dismissing the opinions, advice, suggestions, etc. of others.
As i am not affected by the ban - have a good one!
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Dear snail, i apologize for my actions, i understand now that locking 8 teammates with aim120s to break your team killing cap might have been a bad idea and caused my teammates unnecessary anguish. In the future i will refrain from committing teammate genocide and I will try to uphold the values of the snail… Praise the snail I shall return in 12 days.
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Strange logic. A person who enters a 1st rank plane into a 12.7 match does not weaken your team, a person who enters only with 1 premium tank and dies a moment later feeding your opponent with points right after creating an account does not weaken your team, but if you get irritated after XXX such battles and shoot such a clown at the start in this 1st rank plane, you deserve a punishment :D
They operate on the principle of creating a problem - fight it bravely until you break so many things that we will remember the previous one fondly
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Considering he is your squadmate, he would just have to accept the apology and no punishment would happen.
And what then if I’m in that situation with someone on my team but not in a squad with?
The point is the hard no context stance encourages more cagey gameplay too which removes a degree of fun from what is ultimately a game, something we’re meant to be having fun with surely,? not worrying about losing time and/or money invested in it because a missile hit a teammate mistakenly who was also feeling extra salty that day even though you tried to save them or whatever
Conversely I do have to say it’s so nice seeing way way less intentional tk’s currently. Those takeoff runway killers or people who can’t take off crash and spray their cannons everywhere are just idiotic and ruin the fun of a match from the off,
I’m not against penalising it all either, I deserved my short ban, but I do think the hard line of “tk is tk tough, all punishable the same” kind of message I’ve certainly taken from this thread isn’t the right one to be giving to players either
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It may be wrong to ask this on here but how is it determined if you teamkilled on accident or by intention?
Like if i drop my 2,5t bomb in the He 111 on my friend while playing in a squad after he asked me to bomb him and the enemy since he was about to die either way, will i be banned permanently for now blowing up my teammate and the enemy?
If that isn’t the pot calling the kettle black.
But as you said we aren’t affected by the ban so have fun.
My mistake :)
In all seriousness i don’t think gaijin overbans for a few accidental TKs. And the fact that someone before mentioned that a guy complaining had 40 TK’s in two weeks is hilarious. Not to mention only a single ban was permanent, and everyone is acting like they will get perma’d for an r60 flying off its course.
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Personally i don’t think majority of the people think they are going to get perma banned for accidental kills. A lot of people have issues with the moderators and community managers responses. Myself being one of them.
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They can still accept the apology and the same thing happens. If they dont, you pay some sl.
If someone is racking up enough accidental tks to get a ban, i want them to play a bit more cautiously.
I have yet to see anything like this. All i have seen is that tks will be punished regardless. That is the same that is has always been. Accidents are punished via sl payment and intentional is paid by a suspension.
Yeah, I have no idea why people think they will get banned for a single accident they did 3 months ago.
I guess people decided to just believe the banned people this time around. Will they believe the cheaters when they give their “i didnt play the game all last month yet i was wrongfully banned for cheating” excuse.
https://youtube.com/shorts/kUNTpfadB4k?si=qXSm8gDxDway_-uq
According to you, this TK should be punished then. Right?
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