Fair Play: November 2024

Solution: If allies in proximity range of the bomb - block the fuse. Teamkills - solved. Responsibility - preserved (since you don’t want to waste munition).

There goes my immersion. What a silly idea.

Immersion in WT? Do you know what IRL punishment for FF on the battlefield (what kind of penalty)?

Immersion he misses…
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Your ‘solution’ (game ruining solution) isn’t required, regardless. They haven’t even banned people for accidental tk. These people that were banned were reviewed and found to have done it on a large-scale and on purpose. Friendly fire is good for the game, it happens in any conflict zone, and it should happen here - with the exception of people just doing to troll their own team.

Sir,

I’m sure you are a nice fellow.

Your assumption that low tier BRs have less accidental team killing than higher BR ARB is inaccurate. Accidental team killing happens all the time.

Sometimes, because I change the colors of the enemy player markers to blue, I just blow people up because I confuse myself. All the players are blue at that point and everyone is the enemy. Its a mistake I make often because I’m rather incoherent most of the time.

I’ve had incidents where my Artillery accidentally team killed. I mean, it rarely, if ever, kills an enemy, so after I send artillery, a team mate kills the guy I was after and then drives right into the impact zone. I usually don’t apologize for that because its his fault that he gets blown up by friendly fire.

I’ve accidentally shot down a team mate’s nuke plane because I was so hyperfocused on anything that moved in the air that I just blew him away. Again, I didn’t apologize because he would have killed me with his nuke anyway. I didn’t feel bad because I’ve never been able to drop a nuke and win a game like that.

Recently I team-killed in Ground Simulator battles. The poisonous vitriol I received from that player was quite offensive and I shouldn’t post it here, but he called me the ‘N-word’ even though I am clearly from Uganda.

I never complain about being team killed and only remember complaining once because another player shot me after I took off on the airfield in ARB. Its usually players that play Russia that do that.

Your post won’t be deleted. As a matter of fact, I am going to print it out, frame it, and hang it on my wall next to my old xBox console. I bought the console used on ebay for $20.00. Its a little laggy and playing it on a choppy connection causes the game to crash sometimes.

You have a good day sir and I hope to see you on the forums in the future unless you get banned again.

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This is just sad.

Sad in a bad way.

You should be banned just for saying it out loud without any guilt.

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Do you want stupid furballs where planes collide with each other and spray like idiots without any semblence of realism?

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Not for me, losing farm due to game design issues I cannot control nor avoid - not healthy. Reversed damage would preserve tension from responsibility for your fire without harming others who not deserve to suffer from your faults.

Discuss this with gaijin and/or other Ground RB players.

From a immersion and realism pov this nuke mechanic is a joke. Dropping a tactical nuke at the frontline (with friendlies near and the carrier plane within the blast radius) is Arcade.

That is the result of gajins strategy of the past - they ignored it and have an auto-ban system with way too low thresholds implemented. So on one hand they allow rookies to participate with buy-ins at high/top tier - and on the other hand those guys have zero skills due to the lack of experience.

That’s why those players perform stupid tasks like base bombing and kill each other - not because friendly fire is allowed & realistic.

Your last argument looks constructed even if addressed by an experienced player - the majority of players is from my pov not able to process such instances - and plays his own game whilst being allocated to random strangers.

Trying to play the White Knight and protecting a nuke from a friendly with intentions to team kill the nuke carrier is a prime example for the lack of effective deterrence in the past - there is no need for protection from team killers or subsequently avengers of team killed guys if team kills don’t happen in the first place…

@Get_HeshED
I’m playing sim mode and I’ve not been banned for teamkilling, nor do I have issues with IFF (unless China is flying b25js and P38s).

I regularly fly into air supremacy points with a clusterfuck of planes and… I don’t see anyone teamkill. if it gets too confusing, people pop smoke to ID themselves more easily.

This is not to say I didn’t mess up before - aforementioned b25js and p38s from china and b-57s and il-28s have made me shoot teammates before because they were flying suspiciously and were not responding to follow-me.

If you do your due dilligence in air sim you won’t get issues with TKs. Especially considering effective guns range is ~0.5 km or 0.3 km and you get blue nametag at 0.8 km. Guns range improves vs big bombers, so they tend to be my main source of friendly fire incidents as I don’t want to fly anywhere near their guns as they shred planes.

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Usually zero. Simply because severe penalties would weaken the combat power of own troops in the long run - so in order to avoid this nothing would be done and decided. Example: The A-10 is famous for friendly fire accidents, try to google any punishment or court-martials for that.

Depends on the country, since our snail leached out of post-soviet swamp - it would be a “penal battalion” at longest and “without trial or investigation” at shortest.

By your logic we should disable any penalties for A-10s or US attack crafts. Shall we?

Please do not repost or talk about posts that have been previously moderated (meaning that they can’t be seen), it’s against the rules.

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It’s good that Gaijin is actually doing someth8ng about teamkilling in game but this isn’t what we asked for and it wont resolve the issue.

As a war thunder player with 60+days i rarely experience teamkills in game, that of intentional ones anyway. Most of the time the teamkills we complain about are when teammates blindly fire weapons and hit us instead of their intended target. Banning people for ‘intentional’ teamkills will easily get mixed up with accidental ones, only making the situation worse.

I love this game but the deve have lost the plot, they dont have a clue what they are doing and they make the most stupid decisions i have ever seen. Just because certain content creators whinge to the devs about an issue only they face doesn’t mean you have to create another issue for every other player in the game. Get your priorities straight Gaijin, your video game is going downhill.

Furthermore, what good will banning more than 10% of the active player base do in improving the quality of the game, it won’t do anything. Instead you should prioritise spending your time on genuine issues with the game and also trying to increase the rate of which you update the game and to a higher quality.

If the devs didn’t spend so long wasting time and instead had the passion to improve your game, maybe War Thunder could reach a larger audience and become more enjoyable for your loyal playerbase.

But we all know it’s about the money and listening to your content creators who so greatly promote your game, and not people who actually just generally enjoy the game.

Sort your problems out devs.

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Ive seen a lot more than just “rare” occurrences of TK’ng, hck almost every other top tier ARB game someone tk’s either on our team or enemy team during take off.

Also you dont get banned for TK’ng unless you have either done “mass TKng” or have had prior sanctions with this final sanction resulting in a ban so therefor the ban is warranted.

If you or anyone is claiming they got banned for “1 accidental tk” then i find that to be a lie simply because I and others have accidentally tk’d in the past.

Well when that 10% has the potential to sway a players opinion through “experiences” i.e. premium players, yes that 10% could arguably be effecting another 10% of the active players.

Either way if you or anyone is getting banned for tk’ng then its not a one of occurrence meaning you are actively doing this which is actively making the game experience worse for others.

Repeated offenses need to escalate and eventually lead to a permanent ban, otherwise there will be people who just come back every 2-4 weeks to teamkill a bunch for fun again until they get their next temporary ban.

So . … you are pen pals with Tetsuo then??

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So if I call out I’m dropping a pE8 bomb, and my target, but if my team mates drive into my bomb drop… that’s my fault even more so than silver loss?

Better not play air sim anymore… ir aams kill team mates very often… even in good shots on the enemy.
Since flares + friendly afterburners = team kill

Gaijin is going downhill…

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I love this game but i think these TK penalties without warning are a bit too much. I got a 3 day ban but i even dont know what i did wrong.

I dont think banning people is the solution, giving a huge fine of like 100.000 SL is enough.

Also the player base gets affected if you ban people. People go away from the game and you lose players. Also the game will be too serious and not fun anymore with all those strict rules

Its just my opinion

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Frequent teamkillers should be banned, especially ones that intentionally TK others.

They’re hardly strict.

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