Fair Play: November 2024

I mean bombs also explode which does area/splash damage so anyone within the proximity of the PE-8’s 5KG bomb. When A it explodes mid flight while people are escorting it or B when it blows up on the ground is bound to TK some people.

Thx for the update!

From a technical perspective alone the discussions are a big win for friends on fair play. Even if players don’t agree with that (which is their right) i don’t see any problem even if those guys are trying to start review bombing - imagine a revolt going with the slogan “We don’t want to get punished if we violate the ToS and the idea of fair play”…let them “be offended”…

Have a good one!

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Normal human beings do accept that as part of the game, have a laugh and move on.
If it is intentional, get that person reported.

There was another post yesterday where someone mentioned being in a Jagdpanther, immobilized and surrounded by 3 enemies. A friendly took out all 4 and the guy thanked him.

Another thing that I can think of, especially when you have a PE8 or a Lancaster available and you’re being spawn camped. You would drop it close to your spawn to clear it of enemies and then your team mates can leave the spawn again.

This is how the game has been played for as long as I remember and that’s fine with me. If you hit 2 friendlies in the same game you’re out and pay the SLs as well. That is already enough punishment and shouldn’t lead to a ban.
Again, intentional TK is a different matter and that’s what the report button is for…or should be.

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It’s bound to happen.

Think about this:

I don’t know how many WT accounts there are, and how many can be considered active.

Now roughly 20k players got a “shot across the bow” and 2500 that got a heavier “slap on their wrist”.

That means however also, that all the remaining players apparently are perfectly capable of keeping their TK’s in check enough to not have been sanctioned in this wave. So it’s hard to believe it’s all just accidental and unavoidable, at least for me.

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Watch a youtube guide or 2?

How will they get better if they can continue playing and make the same mistake over and over again, seemingly not learning from them at all.

Considering a post just made a few minutes ago by someone saying their last account got perma banned, now their new account got a 3 day… these incidents are extremely likely not the “rare accidental” type that most are claiming.

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No one is saying it’s all accidental. Some are saying that not every situation for a TK was done in a public live match. Some people got temp or permabanned in a custom battle.

Some got banned for quite literally nothing.

Some certainly deserve to be banned but it seems like this mass ban wave was not at all thought throughout.

Tells us the players that some toxic people were falsely abusing the report system to make them(one of their reporting) look like the bad guys. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is partially one of many different cases for the actual innocent people.

That is part of the problem with these posts… they can say whatever they want. They can say that they have never fired their weapons within 500 meters nor within 10 degrees of traverse of an ally, or whatever they want… There are 3 sides to every coin… Side A, Side B, and that thin little sliver on its circumfrance called the truth.

You’re intentionally overlooking the key point(s).

All TKs are counted, whether they’re intentional or not.

The fact that all TKs are counted and noone (except Gaijin and the CMs) know what the mechanics behind this are means that every single player in this game could be banned for TK, intentional or not.

The fact that Gaijin is selling high tier premiums to anyone will cause additional TKs, so the “we’re protecting the fun for everyone” argument just went out the door.

And last but not least, we have a realistic game mode with no TK (Tank vs. Tank) and instead of simply implementing that for planes, the blame is shifted onto the players instead of reviewing the game mechanics.

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Even if the outcome might be similar - there is huge difference between things you can’t influence (like your example with team compositions / skill distribution by rhe MM) and things you as a player are in charge of - like intentional team killing.

So you compare apples with oranges…

I’m pretty sure he meant those things ruin his game experience the same as getting TK’d.
And I agree, losing a match because no one else did anything noteworthy on the team is way worse than an accidental TK.

Last time I asked a Steam moderator, he said there is indeed a counter, but there is also a timer that counts down overtime and after a while the kill count will reset to zero, maybe they changed the rules now I don’t know bro

ngl kinda hilarious, they pushed out the ban wave a day before the IS7 event

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sigh

I keep repeating this: You can’t abuse the reporting system this way.

Players are never punished because they are reported.

Players are punished when an actual misbehavior or illegal action is identified.

The reports (say a chat related in-game report or a gameplay related Server Replay Report) may point at or show that misbehavior, but if there is no misbehaviour identified, nothing will happen to the player who got reported.

(Spamming nonsensical reports however, to try to get someone into trouble, now that IS forbidden behavior and is punished…)

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Same as above: Apples and Oranges.

The first part refers to the MM - and the second part you shift the goal post from:

to

Don’t get me wrong - your points are valid, but not in the context of team killing. Even as i don’t play tanks, i am fully aware of the issues there.

Have a good one!

Imagine, people wanting to review bomb cause their actions have consequences. Wild.

That said, taking from the level of misfortune I have in ARB and the fact that I did not get a ban it somewhat shows to me that the ban is not “cause it was on accident”. You did something repetitively and now you have to deal with it.

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  1. All TK’s are to be avoided at all costs.

  2. It’s not just the sum of TK’s, but other factors are taken into account too, of course.
    (Just as a rough example, 5 TK’s in one day probably (or obviously) are weighted differently than 5 TK’s in 3 months…)

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If multiple people are making this claim. Then yes they can. People aren’t dumb some will figure a way to abuse it in a way that isn’t a literal definition of abuse. Ex->Spamming the report button. People figure things out.

So why not deactivate it in Air RB as Gaijin did in Ground RB?