Almost nobody but grinders. And oftentimes you simply can’t even fix the ticket disadvantage, or can’t go through several thousands of tickets within designated tineframe.
I don’t see how being able to just avoid combat and waste everyone’s time benefits the game.
Mafches would end faster without AF AAA, but they would be no less fun. But that’s assuming one plays for fun and not to grind.
Free sl/rp is free sl/rp
Depends. Less fun for those who rtb but more fun for those who want to camp the enemy af for easy targets.
My solution would be this:
Once one enemy is left, the af aa will shut off after they have been within the aa zone for a set amount of time. There would then be a cool down to prevent them from going out of the zone then going right back in.
This would allow them the chance to re-arm and repair if they want to fight but prevent them from just circling.
You know, why I find myself around AF? I chase down last enemies.
You know, how often they manage to leave the AF and continue to play the game effectively?
Maybe once per 100 games.
You know who actually benefits from AF AAA?
Griefers.
If you have to RTB with no team left to cover you - too damn bad. Very sad and depressing, but you’re not surviving anyway.
For players doing RTB the fun is already over.
Most will leave the AAA bubble and die. End effect? More time wasted.
SL and RP are important to compulsive.grinders. The main problem of Air RB is that people consider it a grinding environment.
It’s ridiculous that Gaijin is catering towards people NOT enjoyjing the mode in the 1st place. This is a game. And game is supposed to be fun. If you’re playing this mode as work 2.0 - then god damn, you have a problem.
Yet compulsive grinders are trying to make this mode even better for grinding. And way less fun as a result. XP-50, Wyvern and Ju-288C have already greatly reduced the fun across the prop BRs.
Have you ever seen the famed “AF AAA reversal”?
Your solution does not fix it.
You know, what would fix it?
Player controlled AAA/SPAA. Give them something to do. Give them some targets to shoot at (AI trucks, cars, armored cars, ight tanks, AI planes - you know, recon/sabotage groups + enemy air force trying to attack the AF).
Every other solution has the problem of being kinda… unfair.
Or maybe lets just give planes 10s after succesful landing (you know, to simulate pilot getting the hell out of plane - 10s so you can’t expect to land while getting chased down and survive) and 75s after repair invulnerability and be done with it.
I mean, that’s how it works in ground RB. 75s is plenty of time. If you can’t fix your problems by that time? Too bad. And once that 75s runs out - you get a long cooldown of at least 6m.
Of course we remove the j-out exploit either way.
Or just add several spawn zones separated by 8km, so you can choose to spawn further from.the enemy after you repair, you know that’s just as realistic as 9s repair + teleport to the end of the runway :P
@Loofah I know you have me on ignore, but I don’t care… What’s all of this got to do with this thread, because none of anything you have mentioned is againt the rules, you just don’t like it.
Seriously, the amount of “why aren’t people being banned for playing in a way I don’t like?” in here is absurd (and is largely thanks to the usual suspect, who somehow still hasn’t been dealt with).
These things are reportable offences under ‘passive behaviour category’
Where’s the statement regarding that, because it’s not actually passive if they’re luring them to the airfield in the manner that they are.
Unfortunately it’s not. It’s the way this game is intended to be played, it’s valid tactic according to them. It’s scummy, it takes no skill, but apparently most of community supports it the way it is. Community is full of toxic low lifes hating fair play because that’s how Gaijin likes it.
Edit: flagged by trolls
You called me bad for dying to “OP” planes, so I showed you via statistics how you are many times worse than I am, implying your opinion comes from ignorance while mine comes from experience.
Yeah, I forgot I let my brother play it. Here’s my stats with it on another account so you can remain BTFO. 5 games, 17 kills, 0 deaths. One of them is a 7 kill game I have the replay for, and I played rather poorly that game too - bad aim, poor decisions, didn’t matter, the plane’s insane performance got me out of my mistakes.
If I remember rightly, it was 10 kills on my main account that were mine, can’t remember how many games that was in. So 27 to 0, without even trying.
I know you’ll claim I’m lying about my brother, so you can dogfight me or shut up. I’ll give you a (very) practical demonstration on how you are oh so wrong.
I called you nothing of the sort… You can re-read what I’ve put towards you as you are just looking to have an issue.
You were the one who dragged my stats into it in the first instance.
Perhaps it’s less of a problem for me, as I’m the player you speak of who will disengage from anyone flying to his airfield. If they want to re-arm, fine, but I like to signal early to them that I’m not going anywhere near their AAA, so they know if they don’t want to die they can J out.
This usually works pretty well. The vast majority of player will leave their AAA bubble if you just give them the space to do so. I think the issue is players can’t tell the difference between the chronic campers and the average player. They don’t give the “camper” a chance to leave, because they assume they won’t.
I have no problem with base AAA, as attacking landing planes is pretty unsporting, but I agree there does need to be change to make chronic camping harder, while still allowing players to land in peace. I think if we deal with the minority of griefers who refuse to J out or fight, the rest of the players will get the idea to just let each other leave the airfield.
Your words.
That’s not saying you are ‘bad’, it’s saying that you have an issue with those that got you… Like Loofah here…
Whilst we are an enemy team, there’s no reason to get all cut up and agressive towards us, for whatever reason, making abuse and actual insults…
This, is also something towards actual fair play…
Quit the gaslighting, that’s an insult and you know it is, replying to a conversation you were not a part of no less.
It’s not, and I will comment where I am free to do so.
Airfield camping has nothing to do with this thread.
This is the obvious solution, I don’t know why they haven’t tried it already.
I wasn’t even talking to you and you passive-aggressively tell me that maybe I just don’t like dying to certain planes. I proved you wrong with statistics, and now you complain that I’m insulting you.
You can’t make this up.
Ummm?
You just did…
I didn’t say that you insulted ME… I said no-one deserves to be labeled as Loofah and you are doing by saying they are skill-less to get you in that manner…
It’s not unfair, it’s not against the rules, and there are counters for it.
I don’t have the time to hack anything. I work a 9 to 5 just like some of us do and only play for an hour or maybe two nowadays before I have to go on about my day again. Do you really think if I would have the knowledge and skills to hack like you claim I do, wouldn’t I try to just simply make or hack another account and be done with the whole situation? No sir, I’m simply here to maybe help save my very old account that I’ve worked on through blood, sweat, tears, and maybe a buck or two. Something you and everyone here who is a true war thunder player will understand. All that grind and for what?