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Literally every subsonic around its BR except ariete
F-100s, MiG-21F-13 variants, Lightnings, Q-5s, T-2s, F-4Cs
But sure…
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Yes it’s better than lower BR jets, very exciting
It may have a better FM than some of these, but it isn’t a better jet that any of them besides the F13 and the F4C, maybe better than Q5
Either way you have no point here, the topic is about the Su-7 not living through being missiled unless you use S-24s which heavily reduce FM performance and you get 6 entire total whole flares if you play the better version and skip the su7, if you play the su7 you get 4. This also means no bombing and purely using it as a fighter
Out accelerates and out retention both F-100 and mig-21f-13s. More retention than pure speed jets like F-104/106. Faster than lightning on most speed regimes. Even aforementioned mirage 3 (the plane carrying the magic 1s) are slower to accelerate and bleed speed like crazy.
Wow!! 6 rockets that hinders performance on… an already very fast accelerating mach 1.2 capable jet. Rockets that, once you use it to defend against missiles (or just fire it off in meme headons or other reasons) no longer hinder your performance.
But sure.
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Yeah that doesn’t mean I’m taking it over it in air RB
good redundant point since I already mentioned f13 is worse
Listen bud, they could be 0 weight and 0 drag and you would still have 6 entire flares. It’s not good, it’s just the best option to use.
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Which is funny how this is an issue when some gun only jets this br (or higher) don’t even get rockets to spam as flares. If anything this is generous for an already strong gunfighting 9.3.
Like you can outrun or out turn 99% of the missiles you face but not having flares is the issue?
the primary way to avoid missiles at this BR is to simply not give your tail to anybody, and the f100 and other jets have upsides the su7 dont to make up for the fact they dont get rockets, the F100 DOES get rockets but I’m assuming you mean because you would take sidewinders
Pulling numbers from smelly places
Literally unless you let someone within 2km of your rear or go near an A-10 or Su-25 (LMFAO), You shouldn’t be dying to missiles.
I’m sure you think that
It’s literally a fact.
Might want to brush up on your schooling
Personal attacks instead of bringing in counter-evidence? The horror!
Not much different from pointlessly trying to pass off an opinion as a fact, you have lost the ability to have a conversation after that
absolute cinema
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Then where’s your counterargument then? If you get shot by a rear-aspect missile, that’s you letting someone within 2km on your 6. So… simply position better to avoid such scenarios and… you don’t get missiled! Crazy how that works.
But I guess outrunning rear-aspect missiles in one of the fastest jets of its entire BR bracket is too impossible…
The F-100s are better aircraft by a decent margin IMO. It’s flight model isn’t insane for 9.3, but it’s not bad/one of the better ones.
The Su-7 should stay at 9.3 unless BR decompression is done. Meanwhile the Mirage is one of the best performing aircraft stats wise, and is awful to face in anything that lacks flares (unless you also have free kill missiles and decent flight performance.
I won’t deny that it is a better aircraft overall with the 4 9Es. But in terms of fm specifically, the Su-7 is a lot stronger.
Remember minor nations’ TT vehicles tend to have higher stats compared to big 3. This is not to downplay Mirage 3 strengths, but I felt compelled to point out. Going by raw stats would put the MiG-29N above the Su-30MK2s despite the Su-30MK2 being one of two strongest 13.3s available, for example.
you’re joking right? You can’t turn or run. Everything is faster than you at 10.3.
no im not
dont show them your engine and youre fine
So? Su-7 should be under BRed, because in a full uptier it struggles?
Its meant to struggle in a full uptier. Every 9.3 struggles in a full uptier.
Though, being brutally honest. Very few things at 10.3 are probably actually faster than a Su-7
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The problem here is of course BR compression, such is the situation where so many aircraft can get into a situation where they are totally outmatched in a full uptier. Br decompression or reduction to +/- 0.7 is of course the obvious answer, that Gaijin is totally blind to.
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