F4S Phantom or MiG23 ML?

So I wanted to buy a top-tier premium jets with all the perks, but I wanted to know, which aircraft is better? But don’t come banging that F5C is also there, I found that jet tooo small…lol. I have done a lot of research on the MiG but not any on the phantom. So can you guys help me? ;)

Well for starters, which nation do you want to finish researching. There’s also the fact that you already have experience in the MIG’s so you’ll probably naturally do better in that than the Phantom. But that first question is probably most important here.

Also… wtf?? That’s one of the best selling points XD

lol, plus I want to finish researching the russian and german trees

Well then I’d say the 23 then

thx :) BTW the loadouts for the F4S is crazy…just now i did a test flight

Mhm np

Frankly, neither the F-4S nor the MiG-23ML is worth your cash in the current meta. They’re both sitting ducks for the F-14A, and most of the time, they’re completely outmatched.
If you’re forced to choose between the two, I’d go for the F-4S. At least it hasn’t been nerfed into the ground. In fact, it’s even seen some buffs – the AIM-7F is much more reliable now that the radar multipath effect has been toned down. It still can’t quite hang with the F-14A, but it’s more than enough to deal with anything that doesn’t carry Phoenix or other FOX3 missiles.
The MiG-23 series has been absolutely gutted since last year. They’ve nerfed the R-24R/T, the airframe, and the radar. It’s basically unplayable now. If the Soviets didn’t have such a limited premium selection, the MiG-23ML would’ve been binned ages ago.

F-4S is far superior at the moment and is much easier to use. The MiG-23ML is just flawed in so many ways.

if you want to bomb enemy main targets or play sims F4-S is very fun and you can quickly climb the American tree head to head mig23ml will beat you in dogfight and you won’t be able to escape from it you don’t have much chance on your own its missiles are slow and don’t hit but its radar is good anyway its general purpose is ground attack and bombing

but if you want to play against people (dogfight + head to head)

MIG23ML would be better it is faster in terms of takeoff speed it is generally designed to meet and shoot down enemy aircraft its turns are better than F4-S it goes higher and faster its top speed is 1480km ‘‘mach 1.4’’ at low altitude and 2490km ‘‘mach 2.3’’ at high altitude and these are the values ​​with air to air missiles

The F-4S is honestly my pick for a dogfight. I could see myself easily beating a MiG-23ML or even MLD with this thing, especially after their fm nerf.
The F-4S agile eagle package makes it quite easy to use and control both overshoots as well as low speed fights. At the end of the day it’s still a phantom and a MiG-23 could beat it if played right, however I find the F-4S to be more user friendly and easier to learn, as opposed to learning manual wing sweep control and energy management for the MiG-23 so you stay above Mach .85

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Bruhh The guy just started playing the game and he asked a simple and easy question, he won’t understand this detail… eww and MIG23-ML got nerfed in last 4 update

Exactly, that’s why I’m saying the F-4S is the superior choice.

his choice but f20 is better than F-4S but at 12.7 F20 is potato xd

fm nerf?

The MiG-23 series received a flight model nerf not too long ago. Essentially all MiG-23s were overpreforming, as the ones in charge of implementing the flight model made a miscalculation.

Example: they made it so that a MiG-23MLD with a full air to air missile load was preforming as well as it did IRL when it didn’t have any missiles on it. So essentially if you get what I’m saying, it was basically flying around a bit lighter than it should have been and turning more than it should have. It has since been corrected.

oh. welp thx :)

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