I say nuh uh. It’s an early type F4S, ridiculously strong radar and missiles too becuz of the MP change. ( Though it may struggle but isn’t unusable and far from useless in an uptier)
Abuse the radar or bomb with it like most F4S bots do lol.
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Now compare the F-4S to something like the FG.1/FGR.2, which face it on a regular basis.
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Actually, there is an acknowledged bug report Community Bug Reporting System about the AIM-9L for the Phantom. There is also a document named “Aviation Ordnanceman” Google Books from 1985, which states:
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there was no US phantom with AMRAAMs
we are aware
however, why do you so desperately want the phantom’s BR to increase?
having put a number of battles through the F4F-ICE now I don’t see why anyone would want even a 0.3 increase to the 11.3 Phantoms
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In my opinion, could add F-4S (1984) to regular tech tree and armed AIM-9L
But F-4S from premium tree not get AIM-9L
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If you want to see 11.7BR F-4S, yes
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How F-4S face against Su-27 which is 12.7BR atm???
Give us a TT F-4S (late) instead, with those and the Aim-7Ms instead. The F-4J is already a worse F-4S, and giving players the option to have a TT one is quite nice, along with the fact most players wouldn’t love to have a 11.7 F-4 that sees spamraams even more.
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EJ Kai have better radar and internal gun(which is better)
So, hms is on same level
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But why increase the BR? Why it can’t stay at 11.3 with all aspect missiles like MiG-23ML for example?
because the aim 9l are just better than the r60m and you also have a pd radar unlike the ml and an hmd… and the f4ej kai is also higher br without the hmd
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Well, i guess, that 9L been a little to much for if not the strongest, to the most versatile 11.3 premium in game.
If you so want all-aspect IR, maybe its be better to take AIM-9P2, (20G, but seeker from 9L), because 9L - its for sure ticket to 11.7-12.0 for F-4S.
It would be more correct to compare it to Mirage F1 or MiG-21 Bison not to full uptier vehicles
the f16 mig29 that the f4s can face dont have irccm missiles, and it cannot face su27 at all
I’ll raise you thi:
The lowest BRed HMD with all aspects is 11.7: the MIG-21 BISON with R-73s.
The F-4s would be an HMD with AIM-9Ls, and better avionics, and more missiles.
It would be unbearably overpowered at 11.7 due to being the armament of a non spaded F-16C a full 1.0 lower
R-73 way better than 9L
MiG-21Bis still turns better than any F-4 in 1 circle, near to same in 2
F-4 doesnt have better avionics, than Bison
Obly one thing is better than 21Bis will be if added 9L - amount of missiles.
The radar is better
I would take 4X9L and 4X7F over 2XR73 and 2XR27R any day
The would be unbelievably overpowered at 11.7 with HMD AIM-9Ls
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lolwat? No it isn’t. F-4J and F-4S have identical weaponry and airframes.
AIM-7Ms are identical to AIM-7Fs in War Thunder.
Ben dawg was right tho, the F4S is in fact a more forgiving dogfighter.
So no, not exactly identical in flight performance which is actually a big deal here
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