F4J Phantom II - It needs a BR drop

F-18s match or beat them on every point and then have a better FM ontop. they should be higher than 12.3

The F-18 has fewer missiles and a lower top speed, so to be honest, I don’t know.

much better radar compensates for two less sparrows. the speed is nice but at the cost of nose authority and agility (even if people still manage to make a hornet into a brick) is also worth the speed trade IMHO

That might be true, but honestly it doesn’t really matter. The point is that he was saying the Ej-kai is rubbish, even though it’s one of the best planes at 12.3.

I think it should be 12.0 with how compressed the game is. it is not on par with hornet or even comparable to most 12.7s, let alone a 13.3 SU-30MKK/AMV

??? F-4J and S are 12.0 and you put full superior aircraft at same br ?

And both are the same level of superiority over the F4JUNK and Viggen D.

The game is Compressed to hell. Thats like 99% of the problem

Kai is closer in performance to something like the Tonka F3 than it is to the F-18s

I think the american J is fine as its got HMD, making it superior to all the other 12.0s, but they should be lower within the mix too

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What else would F-4E’s launch at me that can turn at those ranges?

That was not even the missile I evaded.

So what would be good shots then? What are the parameters you would consider a good shot at that altitude?

Imagine ignoring replay videos proving that the AIM-7E-2 is still possible to dodge by just maneuvering while still heading into it.

Before the patch you could do slower rolls and be fine, now you just need to do them faster but still perfectly doable

It’s not about altitude it’s about knowing the missile’s limitations and launching it correctly

Aim-7E

Enlighten me. What parameters should be ideal?

lmao you must have never used it then

When I did the stock grind for the F-4E, I used

It’s not a recipe for a cake it’s something you learn over time, through trial and error.

So you don’t know yet here you are here saying those were bad launches.

Tell me, what distance should these be shot at a target moving at about 2000m altitude coming at frontal aspect? So tell me what should these launches look like.

Evading the question only makes you look even more clueless

Then you would have known that the AIM-7E would not start turning as soon as those missiles did.

head-on 3–4 km, at different altitudes or angles prob 7 km and always giving the missile a lead
But as I said, it’s about practice, not theory

So what is this?

Exactly 3.52km launch in frontal aspect at almost the same altitude

It’s amazing to me the effort you guys put into ignoring the proof and strawman argument.

You are just making yourself look bad

I’ve got time let’s go for a custom battle and you can prove to me that you can roll the AIM-7 ok?

PM me

Reminder that you were the one complaining about your aim-7s getting defeated, not us. Then you act like we said aim-7s were undodgable (we never did)

You were the original strawman.

We did some tests , and yes, it’s actually relatively easy to perform a head-on roll with an F-5 without any payload against AIm-7E-2

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