Last guy was trying to bait me to his airfield but didn’t expect a 3km Aim7C shot from behind.
These are really fun after the sparrow buff, they just glide for so long.
These are really fun after the sparrow buff, they just glide for so long.
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OMG that is amazing, the old ones never would’ve went that far. Traveling a whole 4km rear aspect is insane.
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They downright make the F3H-2 overpowered for 9.0. If you ask me it was already borderline undertiered at 9.0 before the sparrow buff, since it has exceptional performance, ergonomics and is easy to fly and very forgiving in general.
The only reason it was bearable was that the quality of the average pilot was… low… but now they can just snipe you out of the sky from 15km away and if you’re in certain planes you barely even have a chance to kinematically dodge the missile, and if your speed is low to begin with it’s just over for you.
No more altitude for you or your team, only F3H-2 swooping in with aim9b and a huge amount of 1000m/s colt ammunition constantly from above. It has to go to 9.3 at least if the sparrow remains as it is.
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I’m hoping they just revert it. It’s definitely a noticeable buff, but they’re still fairly avoidable once people learn to not climb too high, turn during the guidance delay, or just be below it where it struggles to lock.
The plane itself has an okay max speed but the acceleration and turn aren’t great. It’ll just be even better vs newer players but worse vs experienced ones if they give it rating increase instead of revert the buff.
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The acceleration isnt great?? THE TURN ISN’T GREAT?? It has the instantaneous turn rate of a delta wing, especially if you deploy combat flaps and is one of the best accelerating 9.0s, only like f4d, maybe etendard and scimitar outdo you if you fly with a reasonable fuel load.
This is with two aim7c two aim9b, 24 minutes of fuel, compared to a mig-17 at minimum fuel and no weapons
That’s a peak at 28.5°/s for the f3h. Yes i know the mig-17 wins the rate fight, but you don’t have to rate the mig-17 if you can cut into their turn and blast them to bits with 4x barrels of 1000 m/s colt rounds. For air rb this is an ideal quality.
And as for acceleration with realistic fuel loads, here’s a comparison:
F3H is amongst the fastest accelerating 9.0s even if you add the fuel you start out with.
The plane has hands against experienced players quite easily in the hands of an experienced pilot, just because you never meet any of those in arb doesn’t mean the plane isn’t capable of contesting anything in its br range reasonably bar maybe an ariete or mig-19, in terms of actual RB engagements, not 1v1 duels.
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Holy essay respectfully
It’s only slightly faster than stuff like cl13 in return for being bigger target and less manuverable
By not great I do not mean shit levels like vautour…
It’s simply an okay plane, but not the greatest thing of all time like some might say. Save that for stupid p2w f4d
I just want the buff reverted to get my rare kill by perfectly leading and catching some unaware guy with the old 7c, but looks like that aint happening
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I would say more but you have already demonstrated you won’t change your mind just because you get confronted with facts, so i won’t waste my time. Have fun playing the game!
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I said it wasn’t much faster in acceleration or max speed than other planes, and that is true. It only hits about mach 0.95 while other jets at 9.0 can reach mach 0.9 or maybe a little more. You said fastest accelerating 9.0, when did I disagree with that? I said “wasn’t much faster”, not “wasn’t faster”
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I never had a kill with those sparrows lol
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Are you saying the F3H is more manoeuvrable than the CL-13? That’s an impressive level of delusion. Congrats.
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It might actually be with flaps, but that’ll only be at slower speed. I don’t know how to do the stat website with simulated flaps, and I am definitely not someone who knows how to read any chart besides the turn and speed charts, but playing the vehicle myself I know at least at high speed on this plane specifically they make you turn worse funny enough.
Statshark can be quite inaccurate. Regardless, the Cl-13 mk6 can run circles around the F3H. Even the base sabers can, the CL-13 mk6 is both lighter and has a more powerful engine.
It’s not even fair for the F3H, it turns worse in every scenario and at slow speeds is especially bad. The energy retention is quite bad too.
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Yeah I’m getting more convinced its at least mildly inaccurate(?) People use way too much “in my experience” in this game from only playing a vehicle only once or just dying to it too.
Unfortunately, there’s only one youtuber I know of who truly does his own manual flight tests/graphs and he only does it for props; wish there was one person who did it for other planes
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yeah, thats going up soon in br
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Insta turn is good but thats it. Yak 130 mangles it.
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Also aim-7c is broken chaff doesnt work against it. Good for farming andy bomber players in tu-95s and b52
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It doesn’t take more than that to be at a significant advantage over other planes, especially when your acceleration is superior to near everyone as well. Your idea of relative speed difference being not high enough to make a difference shows you have no real clue of how engagement at that br actually play out as soon as you can’t just instantly kill someone or trade in a headon attack like a lemming.
And thank you for ignoring every other argument i have made. As i said, you have proven beyond a doubt you won’t be convinced by facts so please don’t bother replying to me again.
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The second it encounters even a 0.3 br uptier that slight acceleration and top speed advantage conpletely evaporates.
Other 9.0s like the CL-13B and afterburning Migs handle uptiers far better as they can easily outmanuever early supersonics. Meanwhile the F3H gets energy trapped in an instant since shits away all its speed making any kind of manuever. And ofc it cant run away from the far faster 9.3+ jets.
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They are cw so chaff isnt supposed to work with them
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