Isnt 60CMs pretty much standard at that BR until you hit things like F-15A? I struggle to remember a fighter that has more than 60 CMs total other than F-4E/F with 90 and F1Cs with what, 244 CMs? Its been a while since i played it; and those arent even 12.7 to begin with.
The culprit is, as always, BR compression. You have 29G at the same BR as Su-27 etc.
How so? If you bring Mavericks it’s identical to the american F-16A-10 but a BR step higher. If you bring Sparrows it’s identical to the ADF. You don’t gain much other than being very slightly lighter than the latter.
I’ve been grinding the F-16AJ for a 12.0 GRB lineup, and I can say with confidence,
Uptiers suck, Downtiers are heaven. Dropping 6 kills in a partial downtier then none in a full uptier is crazy. I get a lot more uptiers than downtiers.
Sparrows at 1 BR Step higher. Its definitely better than F-16A but the BR is in this weird limbo.
The fact it can be both is also a reason.
I’m just glad I spaded it before the AMRAAM spam became the new meta. Haven’t touched it since.
I feel about the same, it’s such an odd plane. I love flying it in downtiers, it’s overpowered, uptiers it’s so undertiered it’s comical. Even against the MiG-29 it has nothing. It’s really strange.
It can’t be both because one is 12.3, and the 12.7 has Sparrows anyway.
Unless you use some cursed loadout like so:
…and I question the usefulness of a single Sparrow.
This is why I think it should get its unique (and already modelled!) landing gear pylon Sparrows and be hidden and replaced with a Thai F-16. It’d make it more competitive in uptiers, give it the ability to bring sparrows with mavs and make it a unique and flavorful F-16 for those who get it before it’s removed.
Make no mistake, it should be removed! It should also receive its FLAVOR!
That’s y there needs to be loadout based BR for GRB at least.
Some planes are better at ground attack while others at air attack. So give it the br from whatever is higher based on equipped weapons
The current Thai F-16 OCU has AMRAAMs it shouldn’t have by the way. So if we exclude the 9M and maybe even Python 3s, it could be dropped to 12.7 (air) with a quite nasty A2G loadout. Probably would be higher in ground though.
This game is balanced around very annoying and war crime generating amount of uptier and little enough downtier to give you that dopamine. you’ll learn in time.
Thai OCU can be refitted to a sparrow - 9M config at 13.0, and then they can have the 16 MLU for true AMRAAM carrier.
You fail to understand the lengths of my strangeness
Its one free kill if someone who isn’t paying attention is rushing forward. If your objective is to rush the right side of the map, its a handy tool. But if someone is above you with a Fox-3’s just jettison it and pull into a defensive stance. (Which usually means your dead bc you’re right in front of the rest of the enemy)
But then why not bring two Sparrows, just like the ADF can? Why bring the Mavs at all?
useful in GRB, catch CAS zombies off guard while slamming the oppressive ground vehicles
in ARB, guarantee not going to hangar empty handed but keep up the fight
No clue, I only bring one sparrow bc they are heavy and I usually only get the chance to fire one… I don’t understand the mavs
The only reliable weapon on the 7f+9l carriers is the cannon… Nonexistent flr resist / mp resist/ notch gate / seeker reliability
Funnily enough, the 15A didn’t have CMs.
American standard for over 60 CMs came with the CCIP era of the USAF, where older designs were starting to age. The F-16s and F-15s from 1986-1989 started to receive 120-240 countermeasures in every succeeding iterations.
Thats exactly what I did. I spaded it before the F15s even came out.
Only ever used it in GRB since, until the new Thai line came out with the better F16