Sparrows at 1 BR Step higher. Its definitely better than F-16A but the BR is in this weird limbo.
The fact it can be both is also a reason.
I’m just glad I spaded it before the AMRAAM spam became the new meta. Haven’t touched it since.
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I feel about the same, it’s such an odd plane. I love flying it in downtiers, it’s overpowered, uptiers it’s so undertiered it’s comical. Even against the MiG-29 it has nothing. It’s really strange.
It can’t be both because one is 12.3, and the 12.7 has Sparrows anyway.
Unless you use some cursed loadout like so:
…and I question the usefulness of a single Sparrow.
This is why I think it should get its unique (and already modelled!) landing gear pylon Sparrows and be hidden and replaced with a Thai F-16. It’d make it more competitive in uptiers, give it the ability to bring sparrows with mavs and make it a unique and flavorful F-16 for those who get it before it’s removed.
Make no mistake, it should be removed! It should also receive its FLAVOR!
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That’s y there needs to be loadout based BR for GRB at least.
Some planes are better at ground attack while others at air attack. So give it the br from whatever is higher based on equipped weapons
The current Thai F-16 OCU has AMRAAMs it shouldn’t have by the way. So if we exclude the 9M and maybe even Python 3s, it could be dropped to 12.7 (air) with a quite nasty A2G loadout. Probably would be higher in ground though.
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This game is balanced around very annoying and war crime generating amount of uptier and little enough downtier to give you that dopamine. you’ll learn in time.
Thai OCU can be refitted to a sparrow - 9M config at 13.0, and then they can have the 16 MLU for true AMRAAM carrier.
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You fail to understand the lengths of my strangeness
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Its one free kill if someone who isn’t paying attention is rushing forward. If your objective is to rush the right side of the map, its a handy tool. But if someone is above you with a Fox-3’s just jettison it and pull into a defensive stance. (Which usually means your dead bc you’re right in front of the rest of the enemy)
But then why not bring two Sparrows, just like the ADF can? Why bring the Mavs at all?
useful in GRB, catch CAS zombies off guard while slamming the oppressive ground vehicles
in ARB, guarantee not going to hangar empty handed but keep up the fight
No clue, I only bring one sparrow bc they are heavy and I usually only get the chance to fire one… I don’t understand the mavs
The only reliable weapon on the 7f+9l carriers is the cannon… Nonexistent flr resist / mp resist/ notch gate / seeker reliability
Funnily enough, the 15A didn’t have CMs.
American standard for over 60 CMs came with the CCIP era of the USAF, where older designs were starting to age. The F-16s and F-15s from 1986-1989 started to receive 120-240 countermeasures in every succeeding iterations.
Thats exactly what I did. I spaded it before the F15s even came out.
Only ever used it in GRB since, until the new Thai line came out with the better F16
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I would be really happy to have the current F-15A Block 15 OCU split into the twoish jets it really should be. There is a Thai AMRAAM slinger (MLU?) and I think it’s also capable of air to ground, but it is indeed not this exact jet. This exact jet is a whole different thing.
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Ngl sparrows are kinda underrated, just people don’t use them right. They’re honestly insanely good from rear aspect. From rear aspect it’s impossible to out pull, trying to notch them requires pulling so hard they basically line themselves up for you to get a deflection shot if they even manage to pull that hard, and multi-pathing is less effective in rear aspect due to how missiles lead targets. They also have like 3-4km of range from rear aspect, which is something people don’t really expect from an F-16 at that BR.
For a sparrow HDN seeker… chaff and pulling could be enough tho, and mp is still insane. Lucky to kill, still vulnerable to miss, this is why I say it’s not reliable - got to ultimately use guns for backup