Ah yes the no miss R-771 slinger lol
call it what you want I have played all top tier American except the F/A-18C late and F/A-18E and the one I have been able to kill more people with is the F-16C. the Strike Eagle trim characteristics are sluggish as all get out. I am also playing on a laptop not some redonkulous gaming rig bruv. I mainly stick to bombing missions and I do fairly well, a lot of it is teammates not helping or coordinating etc etc. I know I ain’t the best never said I was but I know how chaff and and Dodge fox 3’s just doesn’t help when your being dogged from 8 different directions while trying to stay outta the furball. I have watched planes do no evasive maneuvers and the missile says feck you and does what it wants. Remember ping, packet loss, fps RAM, and Graphics card and Processor are all key factors in your battle outcome as well as teammate cohesion.
bro, i have played basically all Flankers except the Fullback, played F-16D and F-15I, played Rafale M and idk if i still have another toptier jet which i have played, and saying “knowing how to chaff and dodge fox-3s doesn’t help when u’re being dogged from 8 different directions while trying to stay outta the furball” sounds like a problem.
if u know how to dodge fox-3s and chaff, then no matter the direction u will probably dodge them all, u just need to know which one dodge first via RWR or PoV.
trust me, playing the “most broken” plane Su-30SM2 gets the attention of MANY players in a single match, which means i usually face like 10 missiles as minimum in a wide area of +25º, which means i need to notch perfectly if i wanna stay flying (lol who wouldn’t want to stay flying? repair costs are a hell) so if i can notch that amount of missiles in a plane with less than 100CM and a bad FM, u must be able of notching 20 in a plane with 240CM and a good FM.
Except that the drop 2 at a time, regardless of whether you have both CM blocks installed.
So it’s 120 standard CMs or even worse, 60 if you need to take the TGP.
None of this is accurate to IRL, especially when all US F-15s should have BOL pods.
Now compare that to 96 large caliber CMs on the Su’s
96 countermesures vs. 120 countermesures
also nobody takes TGP in a F-15A, it isn’t a F-15E.
even better, u need to press ur keybind less times, less physical effort lmao.
can u prove it pls?
btw, BOL is broken rn, it’s basically the most useless thing u can carry in a plane, almost dead-weight, it has like 8 times worse performance than a normal countermesure.
again, i have played a F-15I which is pretty much the same as the F-15E (but with 120CM more) and it’s not that bad if u need to defend against Fox-3s.
btw i believe it doesn’t have 240CM as default for balancing purposes. if it had 240CM as default and u could carry 240CM more with extra CM pods, it would be a bit unfair to have a plane with 480 normal CM (non-BOL) while u have Gripen with the same 4 BOL CM pods as always with horrible performance.
Large vs standard, which means you can afford to take less flares because large are more reliable for IR threats.
Did you read the title for the post? Or are you just stupid and arguing in bad faith?
Got it. Also arguing in bad faith while stupid. Defeating ARHs with CMs means constantly deploying to force the missile into IOG until it drops you. Deploying 2 at a time doesn’t matter when it sees them both at the same time. All it does is waste CMs.
We already have, try to keep up sweety.
No, chaff is effective regardless of size. All that matters is deployment time/interval.
still enough to dodge an IR missile.
u aren’t going to spend 24 chaff for 1 missile (tho if u do, u still have plenty of countermesures).
why are u going to bring TGP to ARB? and if u play GRB u aren’t going to spend that much CM to dodge a SAM.
wrong, if u’re constantly deploying chaff, all u’re doing is give the ARH missile a beautiful path to go after u.
all u need to do is notch, 10/20º pitch up/down and drop around 4 large caliber chaff or 8 normal chaff, after that u’re pretty much safe. btw speed is also key in this situations.
can u send it or tell me who proved it? btw i believe being disrecpectul as u’re being rn is unnecessary. get some manners.
cof cof
if we talk about time, then u must drop like 10 BOL countermesures per second to actually make them work since BOL countermesures have awful time.
This is not an ARB exclusive discussion, it is a machinery of war discussion. Correcting an aircraft affects every game mode.
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/1QrBJ1GvU9KD
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/rWl5qulHBIVP
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/B9Uo8bUeoD5X
If you think that’s too much, you’re too soft to have this discussion.
That’s only relevant to IR countermeasures, genius.
so u wanna correct things? then give Su-30SM2 it’s respective CM pods and MAW via Irbis-E with 6secs delay.
trust me, i know what i’m talking about.
thx! :D
it isn’t, genius.
all of them were accepted, weird from Gaijin but if they do something right for the first time then i don’t complain about them. expect the Eagles to get BOL anytime, maybe in 5 years knowing how their lazy staff works, but happy to know they’re going the right way.
chaff bol is basically the same as regular chaff for countering radar missiles, it doesn’t really make a difference.
Just make your bol cms chaff and your normal cms flares.
u sure there’s literally not a single difference between BOL chaff and normal chaff? i have heard enough about BOL pods being trash no matter what u carry on them, so i honestly believe there’s still a difference between each one.
there’s definitely a slight difference, but not enough to make a real difference in gameplay.
chaff is chaff, its force missiles to go into iog anyways.
While bol flares are kinda trash because burn time is ass compared to normal flares
ok thx.

