F15A in 12.7 BR

F-15 is strictly superior.

On paper.
I also prefer Super 530D and Magic 2 over AIM-7M and AIM-9M.

The biggest advantage F-15A has is it’s PD radar mode.

No, Statshark would be “on paper”.
F-15 is superior as practical tests show.

Which tests are you refering to?

Flight performance tests, and weapons tests.

F-15A performs better over Mirages in all ways except Magic 2s having better agility than AIM-9Ms.
Mirage 2000 is among the slowest accelerating gen 4s in the game.

The acceleration is only a problem if you fucked up previously or got jumped at low speed.

On the flight performance and weapons tests you have to be a bit more specific.

As I said over the years I always prefered Super 530D and Mgic 2.
That the 2000C only has a HDN radar mode is it’s biggest weakness.

An argument could be made that Mirage is underperforming in the one circle regime due to the way aircraft handle beyond their usual real life flight regime and the real life endurance of pilots but that is about it.
In game heavy twin engined aircraft can often power through turns if you will without g-loads acting as a limiting factor while some nimble light weight aircraft like M2K are limited by the instructor still.
Even so depending on the energy state Mirage can still clap F-15 if it’s initial position and energy state is not abysmaal.

Again to be clear I am not talking about a guns only bfm duel situation starting with a headon timer and low speed. In this regime the in game Mirage is underperforming because the g-loads and aoa the instructor allows you to pull in air rb are to close to what one might achieve in real life during “normal” operations while other aircraft are not held back in the same way.

Man, have some shame. Your own stats are suboptimal on the plane you have always said its good and still you're quotes away from saying its better than the Gripen or the flanker altogether.


This whole performance of yours over the F-15A being good while barely breaking even has always been outrageously delirious.

Given your logic, I could go out there saying the 12.0 Tornado F.3 is an amazing jet and should be 12.3 (I have noticeably mediocre stats with it).

Grippen is just a better F-16AJ at this point the Gripen A and the Su-27 has it flaws compared to the F-15A but makes up for it in missile count and HMS

I can have bad stats in the F-15A it doesn’t change the fact that it was alright at 13.0 and the issues was not the F-15A but the 13.3 flankers above it

i have mostly been comparing the F-15A to the 12.7 Mig-29s that are just worse then it at the same BR

i rather not have my points dismissed by you and talked down upon because of my stats in the F-15A

LMAO, YOU’RE ACTUALLY DOING A CASE.

And an F-16 can win over an F-15A on a dogfight, it’s not as great of an argument as you thought it was.

That has always been a thing in this place, I even got myself gatekept from the F-15A discussion back in the day on those same terms. Your own performance shows the vehicle is not as OP to get you on good stats to begin with.

i wasn’t saying that?

i just said the Gripen A is a better F-16AJ which for the most part it is (only thing the AJ has is better SARHs)

i never said it was OP you are puting words in my mouth i just said it was good also don’t try to be so rude

“f-15 curb stomps everything at 12.7”

Also F-15:

47% win rate and a K/D below .7

If that’s curb stomping I can’t imagine what a plane running >50% win rate and a K/D higher than 1:1 is like. Oh wait, we do know, and it sure as hell ain’t the F-15A.

Why

Who are you talking about

I’m being like that because I’m tired of having to argue with people which either haven’t played the ever glorious F-15s or literally has negative KDs in stats and still repeat the same low level arguments about being the plane version of the 2nd coming of Christ.

The plane has its strengths, no one is denying them. And if sometimes I questioned them is to add nuances, as I do on any vehicle I happen to write about. Are those advantages (mostly passive) good enough to be 13.0? Absolutely not, unless either its radar illumination is fixed or it gets a SARH missile W/IOG+DL to compensate for its unreliability at BVR.

End of story.

This is implying the AWG-9 is better or equal to the APG-63 and that Phoenixes have anywhere near a 1/4 hitrate which both are not true.

really? i heard they were good jumpscare missiles?

there’s a very interesting in group tendency on these forums to decry anyone who doesnt like a certain jet that used to be insane and is now powercrept as a fool or a bad player, even if they’re correct.

Look at the other guy’s claim.

Ion claimed that MiG-29’s radar is not that good compared to F-15s radar

then Try-hard cool guy comes up and counterargued, ‘Use R-27T instead of 27ER then’

Even if R-27T is not bad for jumpscare enemies, comparing it with either 27ER or 73…

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Those are the R-27ETs, the Ts just have significantly less range, and overall aren’t very useful. I’d rather have an R-73 in all circumstances.

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I see my bad i’m not familiar with russian missiles at all

“try-hard cool guy” and I offered a solution to your “problem” lmao