f111 engine so yes
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Cool! The flight model isn’t of a gen3
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only real issue i have is the nature of the AN/AWG-9 along with the fox3 seeker heads and how they interacts with planes that go fast. Its not a big issue but a lot of times aircraft on the other team have already gone defensive by the time im within launch range of aim54/F90 but it isn’t that big of a deal just gotta wait for them to turn back towards the fight. its like a mild inconvenience at best
I really don’t know why this topic is generating so many responses, the changes I asked for at the time that the f14A IRAF was 12.3, the changes have already been implemented, the plane even went to 13.0, the 11.3 planes that faced the f14A no longer face it with the same frequency, I think the discussion has already been decontextualized.
because this is an old topic, which has already had changes applied
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Erm, Who I need to call to close this outdated topic down?
It seems that we need to.
- As long as this topic is outdated, badly, it seems that more discussions can’t be constructive.
- Time has changed. a lot.
:|
Doesn’t change the fact that the F-14 was the main testbed for the AIM-120 and they were intergrated for the F-14D but not deployed and would have been used.
Look how they have been “hotwiring” NATO-missiles to ex-soviet planes in Ukraine now.
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Doesn’t change the fact AIM-120 is not deployed on F-14D.
I am not gonna grind for F-14D if you guys manage to let Gaijin install ‘diet-phoneix’ instead of fixing Phoneix for a lame stopgap.
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They can do both of that maybe
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Honestly with the amount of franken plane j37s in the swedish tree I don’t think it would be a big problem if F-14D did have AIM-120 but I’d rather them just fix the franken planes rather than add another one
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- Chances are, you benefit from a feature on a plane that wasn’t used operationally in WT. I don’t see how this would change in WT. This is ignoring entire planes that are borderline fantasy in-game. Giving examples, The Mig-29A’s never could use R-27ERs, but they got them anyway. The Yak-141 has an entire avionics suite given to it because it had “provisions for” them. This is the exact same wording the F-14D SAC says about the Aim-120.
- Well atm, the Pheonix is more like a diet Aim-120. The Aim-120 does mostly everything better than the Phoenix. I’d trust a 50km Aim-120 shot over a 50km Phoenix shot. You don’t have to want the best for the F-14D. Because I do. You can refuse play it while we have fun with the ultimate version of the Tomcat. I’d rather them fix the Pheonix and add the Aim-120 and if one of them is not added, I will not stop advocating for either of them until I stop playing this game. We’re doing both here. It’s not one or the other.
Well, I also dislike those ideas too.
German MiG-29A’s historical missiles were R-27R + R-73. But Gaijin was lame and coward enough to not face the consequences of adding R-73 at that moment.
Just Copy-pasted Soviet MiG-29A. :/
It just feels bullshit when some planes are restricted from ‘their own full-historical weaponry which isn’t close to borderline fantasy shit’,
(For example, no AIM-9L for quite a bunch of RAF/FAA planes even though AIM-9L were our standard IR missile at all)
in the meantime, some planes are allowed to have some fancy fantasy things because they had proposed them’
(For example, yes AN/ALE-40 CM pod installed to USAF F-5A/C even though F-5C were retired faster than installation of CM pod.)
Well, I understand F-14D SAC might fit on Gaijin’s standard for adding new things.
I just dislike to see another ‘tightroping-between-fantasy’ kind of plane.
Fair, I can refuse to play F-14D if it comes with AIM-120.
Historic reasons are my main reason, which I dislike adding AIM-120 on F-14D, but it is not the only reason.
But also, I am worrying about F-14D might become another ‘Harrier GR.7’ case if we get AIM-120 on them.
When Harrier GR.7 was added for the first time, it had no AIM-9M but was armed with AIM-9L.
It was somewhat overrated in ARB because
- In that era, there was no separated BR between ARB/GRB.
- It had some fine loadouts for CAS on GRB.
Then F-14B came out.
Have similar features (can fire guided munition, AIM-9L with BOL)
but with some extra features too (Radar, being supersonic, AIM-7M, AIM-54A/C)
With hyperbole, Harrier GR.7 got outdated extremely fast thanks to the new F-14B Bombcat.
GR.7 can’t get lower bc it has fine CAS loadout for GRB, but can’t stay there either bc the A2A loadouts were a mess.
Then GR.7 received new AIM-9M to keep them up to date. ofc, GR.7 got outdated again in ARB quickly, Thanks to JAS39 this time.
After that, finally separated BR between ARB/GRB rolls in, Harrier Lovers dreamed about getting GR.7 a bit lower and more plausible BR. (even though it is with BOL, it is a subsonic harrier. Right?)
But Harrier GR.7 failed to get lower BR because of AIM-9M + BOL combination this time.
Now Harrier GR.7 is forever stuck at 12.3BR.
- were same BR with F-14A IRIAF when they were a bit malcious. (GR.7 was quite too slow for fool Fakour perfectly, and multipath was doomed at the same time) I had no chance against them bc I always got out-ranged and out-speeded.
- now need to face and dogfight against F-16A USAF in downtier, also need to fight against JAS39A or F-16A(BEL) which armed with AIM-9M in uptier.
According to my experience about the Harrier GR.7, I am worrying that F-14D goes way too high because of AIM-120 + AIM-54 combination.
Anyway, I think we might consider shutting down this outdated discussion.
as long as
- Every problem which existed when this topic originally created has been almost solved.
- That makes the title of discussion and real discussing doesn’t match at all.
- There are some better places to discuss about Tomcats.
Do you know who I need to call to close the discussion?
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Locked per request by OP
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