F14 It's too strong for the current BR(12.3-12.7)

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wait hold on F-14B is 12.7?

WHILE THE FUCKING F-16AJ AND J-8F IS 13.0?

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Guys. Use the terrain around you. Fly low. Still works most of the times even with modern fox 3’s not just the AIM-54

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bro SidewaysCube946 was being sarcastic

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It is literally a bomb. If the aim-54 can hit the ground and kill you. You have to go notch and use chaff.

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Don’t forget multipath has been reduceded to 60m, which can be more difficult to dodge Aim-54 especially since it got like 55~60kg warhead

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A whole ass grown woman in TNT.

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This, too, and some of the map’s trees are 60 meters tall after the tree height reduction ( the old trees used to be up to 100 meters).

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plus size lady fox 3

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Well at least It’s a relief that it’s not the weight of a feminist. If it did, it could have weighed almost 90kg

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USN F-14A not upgraded to AIM-9L til 1979

I hope F-14B IRCCM stock instead AIM-9L

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lot of self hating woman at 90kg weight range. Just because they hate feminist doesn’t mean they will be accepted by your people you circular pinyin misogynist.

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well then just give both AIM-9M and put them at 13.3 and 13.7 respectively. I think even at that BR phoenix is still strong enough to not be worthless.

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This was just a joke cmon

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12.7 and 13.0 is more than enough to solve this problem

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See the thing is they’re currently better than 13.0 leftover F-16 that got 2 7F and 6 9L, they are in the position where a lot of 13.0 jets are just gonna get dinked by these two. Talking about BVR the tomcats are deffo in the better place compared to the early F-16 while the WVR aspect a good F-16 pilot can and will outdog the Falcon.

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But in 12.7 and 13.0 the planes already have decent enough avionics to deal with the f14, like decent rwr…and in this brs the f14 will face j8f with pl12 and AV 8B+ with aim120.

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idk man, 6 Phoenix is 6 phoenix.

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The situation you just described is literally the the problem every other aircraft uptiered into f14 hell experiences but worse.

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There are a few things people fail to mention when they say “Phoenix is easy to outmaneuver, bro :^)”

First, you have to give up your entire position to be able to defeat it. Yes, notching it or even going cold for 1 second will completely neutralise the AIM-54. But that one second is more than enough to force you to give up any advantage you might have had or tried to give yourself prior to the encounter. And if the F-14 player is good and is aware of your existence he can simply keep forcing you to go defensive until either the distance is closed or the match ends. When you spend that time defending missiles it translates into less time spent taking out other enemies. So by the time you dodge everything your team is already dead and it never mattered in the first place.

Second, if there’s at least one F-14 in the sky you can guarantee there are more. Notching a single Phoenix is trivial, even notching multiple Phoenixes launched from a single aircraft is easy enough. But having to deal with a sky completely filled with trails is frankly ridiculous at times. It is geometrically impossible to notch three missiles at the same time coming at you from different angles and altitudes. Hence why you have to go completely cold which only emphasizes my first point.

The F-14 (the A especially) plays the match completely on its own terms. People have to adapt to it while it has a response for everything that comes its way. A Tomcat can choose to never get within 30km of a player. Simply launch its Phoenixes, get its 1 or 2 kills on premium players who don’t know how to defend, land on the forward airfield and leave the match. It has the range and speed to never be caught while doing this. That’s just a toxic way to play and I see it constantly. They’ve already made their impact on the match by forcing the entire team to defend and maybe took out a player or two.

The AIM-54 doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Sure, it can be decoyed with ease and in a 1v1 scenario it might as well be dead weight, but there are a lot more variables in your average ARB game. It’s just not fun to play against even if you can avoid dying to it.

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this plane needs 13+++ br

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