yeah getting them mixed up again cause the amount of damn jets. so yeah it could drop to 11.0 no problem, same as the draken. again apologies for getting mixed up.
i know the ASA is 12.0 as i stated to von in the other comment got them mixed up, but again as i said in another response. the ASA shouldnt really be above the Mig23 at all.
Im in agreement that these things need to be made playable, maybe the ASA could go to 11.7, but other stuff still has to be moved up as well, so its against stuff its competative against, even if it goes to 11.7, its still gonna be in constant 12.3s against the likes of F14s and Mirage 2ks etc
12.0 is the right place for it, compression rn is so bad that it would crush things like the F-4C
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F-4C is obviously not 10.7 material.
It should be 10.3.
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Yes, but try to convince the snail about that
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So again we need decompression, not pushing more stuff down.
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You know what will reduce pressure from F-104S?
All >/=12.7 aircraft move up by 0.3, and select 12.3s [namely EJ Kai and Iranian F-14] move up to 12.7 where the vacuum was created.
This will cause enough of a vacuum to reduce pressure from 11.3s.
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Good old decompression!! Advocate for that.
Like pushing the gripen, f15, f16, mig29 away from 12.0 jets like the f1C.
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Wdym the f4c isnt 10.7 worthy! While the f8U2 stayed 10.0 and is now absolutely castrating the br bracket.
Yes that is what I said
10.0 even
there are several things that are over br
like the hunter F7.
but they wouldnt be over BRd if the things that compressed them were moved up…
e.g drakens not seeing F14s for an example off of the top of my head.
to say its Over BRd is a bad phrase, as it means things need to go back down, folks said the sabers and mig15s were over Brd fighting things like F104, now look, theyve compressed the entire 7.0 bracket into 8.0 and since there arent many 9.0s, it means that theyre less likely to get uptiered into the 9.0 area.
to say these F104s both need to go down is a bit far , the F104 TAF can be fine at 11.3, if it didnt have to compete with things such as say the F14.
the ASA i know is too high but why is it 12.0?
the f104s is “usable” but the asa could be 11.3 and be fine. Hell, the a10c is at 11.3 with 4 9ms, i would rather face an f104 with 4 9ls and basically no rwr as it would mean it would have to stay on the deck or be able to notch by eye.
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The damn a10c can barely break 800 kmph no.ones complaining about tbe su 25 with r73s.which is arguably a far supperior platform for arb.
It shouldnt be 11.3 man.
Realistically it needs to be 11.7 and decompression push other stuff up.
Aim9ms beatable as well just pop.cms and change direction so it cant re track once the seeker lights up again.
I think that it should be 11.7, there are currently plenty of planes much worse than the asa at 11.3
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You smoking crack or something lmao. Nothing with 9ms should be bellow 12.0, just as nothing with 9ls should be bellow 10.7. The a10c with hmd can simply turn and fire at your from behind and there goes half of your flares (at those brs most have around 60). The a10 isnt some shit fm either as it can turn and has a shit ton of flares making any competant player (im assuming your not one of them) a menace to anyone who isnt paying all their attention to them. The su 25 with r73s isnt as much as a problem as you can flare them pretty well with a little know how, 9ms on the other hand require a massive dump and pull which the f104 is incapable of doing so good luck doing anything against them.
The f104asa doesnt have an rwr so it cant go above 60m otherwise its dead, its a simple fact when you face f14s every match let alone anything with 7fs or r27s… The f104s still has to face all that bullshit with 2 7es and no gun or 6 9js, if it had 7e-2s then 11.3 would be fine but it doesnt. 11.0 for the s and 11.3 maybe 11.7 for the asa. The a10 is a ground attacker, it shouldnt be competative in air rb, and neither should anything else like the su 25 if it means ruining an entire br bracket for fighters.
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The draken for one could do with a move down, but i cant realy think of anything else that really reuires it apart from maybe the japanese f4 ej as it only gets 7es, 9ps with no agaile eagle making it a simple downgrade to the f4e at the same br. not like it would even be a menace at 11.0 as it was before the update as nothing bellow it has changed much and they could still fight it perfectly fine.
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You realise the aim9m isnt some un beatable missile.
And no i dont think the a10c is fine at that br, but you think adding another jet with brilliant missiles that low is a good idea?
And im an alright player. Not got a 4.0 kd or anything stupid with my jets but i tend to keep around 1.0 1.5 some higher.
Dont need to be so upset and try insult me.
Edit also r73s are about the same difficulty to flare as 9Ms in all.honesty both arent that hard.
Also no pd rader on the japanese f4ej or adtw