F101 without missiles is another F86 USAF doesn't need

[Nostalgistic]

I have a flight manual with the latest revision year, which I used to help other bug reporters fix F-101C on the dev server. I am 100% certain that no conventional bombs are being mentioned at all. Only special stores (nuclear bombs) are mentioned, associated with the MA-2 bombing system.

Here is a relevant excerpt from the manual.

BOMBING EQUIPMENT

Bombing equipment includes the MA-2 bombing system, the MA-7 gunsight, the Aero 7A bomb rack, and associated wiring and controls for its operation. The MA-2 bombing system is comprised of the LABS (Low Altitude Bombing System), the LADD (Low Angle Drogued Delivery) system, and direct bomb release capabilities. Electrical components operate from the 28-volt DC bus and the 115-volt AC bus.

Aero 7A Bomb Rack

The Aero 7A bomb rack is mounted on the center underside of the airplane. This rack basically consists of a four-hook explosive ejector stores rack-mounted on an ejector-type pylon assembly. When electrical continuity to the bomb rack is completed, the hook cartridges are fired, and a gas-operated piston physically pushes the store away from the airplane. The piston is spring returned to its original position after firing. The Aero 7A bomb rack will carry the MK-7, the MK-28, and the MK-43 special stores.

You can argue for technical compatibility to allow the F-101C to use the conventional bombs that are known to be mounted on this bomb rack, but that was bug-reported and rejected by the developers.

[ARCTICWOLF1941]

so in a manner the 101C is correct on the Live server?

[Nostalgistic]

It’s generally accurate, but it’s still missing its emergency tail hook.

[ARCTICWOLF1941]

fair

[Dzhkグ]

@xLORD_ZAPx

after a ridiculously and technically fictitious buff to the R-77-1.

What buff? I haven’t heard of this.

[Cloudzy26160]

Possibly he means the general missile changes, but I think they only changed the AIM-54s, AIM-7s and R-27s this update.

Flight Model and Missile Autopilot Improvements

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I swear some of these people must check under their bed for Russian bias before going to sleep, yes there is undeniably some issues, but some of the things I have seen people invent to justify their bias claims are ridiculous.

[Pangolin_Fan]

@Cloudzy26160

I swear some of these people must check under their bed for Russian bias

The difference is the Aim-54 was due for a buff. The R-77 wasn’t.

[efetenekeci]

This should get moved to 9.0

MiG-19S is at 9.0, and this is the closest analogue

[Cloudzy26160]

and so far the AIM-54 has been buffed and the R-77 has not. And the AIM-54 received far more extensive buffs then the variable motor thrust pressure that is planed for other missiles, which is not a straight buff as it also means it will reduce thrust at lower altitude.
So like I said, people are inventing a R-77 buff that dose not exist in order to complain about it.
If I am wrong and there is a R-77 buff then please link it, because I have been unable to find and would like to see it.

[Pangolin_Fan]

They added it cause there’s a noticeable BR gap between the F-80 and the F-104, YET IT’S AT THE SAME BR AS THE F-104. Absolutely peak Gajin moment.

[xLORD_ZAPx]

@RDXRooster63

missile only F-101 with AIM-4 sounds awful…😭

Not if it had the Genie …

[xLORD_ZAPx]

@Cloudzy26160

People will complain about anything now wont they? There are so many legitimate issues in this game and people are upset they got something they asked for

Did they ask for the all gun only version at BR 9.3? Really this is gaslighting

[RDXRooster63]

We r not getting the Genie tho
Be real here

[xLORD_ZAPx]

But how cool would that be ?

[RDXRooster63]

[Ayrek2023]

Good thing I’ve always preferred hard mode

[WeaponSpecia1ist]

Once again, War Thunder adding a useless vehicle that does not change the game in any way or make it anymore fun.

[xLORD_ZAPx]

They nerfed F104A now A & C are 9.7 BR, hey that’s fair right? (not) 😑🐌

[RXDimA]

Hey, then that means there’s still a BR gap, where you could put another plane in. I would actually like an Aim-4 only F-101 variant at a lower BR. Go up, have someone stall for you, and when they can’t maneuver, hit em with either type of Aim-4. I did this plenty of times in the F-106.
It would take them 5 minutes to make such a copy paste variant.

[RXDimA]

It’s 9.3 buddy