Should the F/A-18C Late be at 14.0?
Even with its 10 AIM-120 capacity, and 9Ms, it won’t (when the FM eventually gets fixed) have the flight performance to keep up with the current kings of top tier air RB. The Rafale, Typhoon, and likely the Su-30 will all outperform the Hornet in one way or another.
With poor acceleration, top speed, and sustained turn rate, It’s AIM-120s won’t have the initial speed that gives them their highest range to that of the F-15C/E, F-16C, and the Typhoon give.
Compared to Flankers, the Hornets are essentially just slower versions of them right now (based on my testing in the dev server). With the highest normal Flanker sitting at 13.7 with almost the same missile quantity, I think the F/A-18C Late should be at 13.7 instead of 14.0. 14.0 would leave it stuck in a state of constant struggle, fighting stronger planes. Alternatively, at 13.7, it wont be perpetually against Euro-deltas and stronger over all fighters.
Okay look at it this way.
Su-27SM is 13.7
120 small CMs, not ESA radar, bad accel and maxspeed.
But 10 amraams… yes…
Flanker has better FM, better CMs(96, but large, ehich is better than 120 small). Radar would be better with this major update.
Only advantage of hornet - a bit better fox-3 missiles for BVR.
Not sure if my idea didn’t get across, I’m saying it should be at the br of the 27SM
you right, i forgot to mention its small, double drop CMs, my bad
And I am saying it shouldn’t.
Why not? Worse FM, worse performance, double drop small flares (60 launches in total)
All around the only thing the F/A-18C has on the Su-27SM is radar and missile quantity.
In total, the worse performance seems to outweigh its improvements
Because Su-27SM has some of the worst missiles while the F/A-18C late gets some of the best. Not to mention the awful radar on the 27SM.
Be that as it may, the Su-27SM still outperforms the Hornet in every other way. At which point you need to compare the F-15C. Same BR, essentially the same missiles as the Hornet, but better in almost every way as well. In the long run, 13.7 planes still outperform the Hornet
Debatable, just due of how easy notching is.
Would be better with this major update.
So the Su-27SM will be almost better in every way, come time for the update to drop?
Better in WVR, might be on level for BVR, due of gaijin’s fox3
You have never used the R-77 and it shows.
The R-77-1 has been proven to have a better straight line range to that of the AIM-120 in game. So for BVR, it seems that the R-77-1 would likely be on par with the AMRAAM.
Iknow how easy to notch fox3 in wt. Thats enough
- Su-27SM doesn’t get R-77-1.
- Against maneuvering targets (which most people are) AMRAAM is still better.
Good for you lil buddy, still doesn’t discount the fact R-77s are bad
I forgot that, whoops
Whatever the case, the Su-27SM still outperforms the Hornet. Even with all 14 missile the Flanker can carry, it still has better speed and maneuverability to that of a laden Hornet. The Hornet struggles when loaded to its max with AMRAAMS.
wvr r77s are free kill long range they suck which is sad cause the su27 is an amazing platform imo, i dont get the r77 hate tbh just play around your strengths and avoid playing into weaknesses