i’d strongly gamble on skill issue on those cases :P
Meh, i think you made it clear enough that your position was more conservative than hopeful that the situation could’ve changed.
What i meant was around the missile’s proximity fuses and how they were working unreliably, which were by far the greatest game-breaking bug this couple of weeks. That has been fixed.
I acknowledge how gimped the AIM-120A/B/C-5s are, and they’re still not fixed, no need to lecture me.
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Sorry, didn’t mean to come across that mean.
im glad that misunderstanding was cleared up.
i honestly do hope they have some case uses, because i really dont want to remake all of my EFT loadouts for nothing.
That’s a joke right? Go look at what USSR got this update
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Nobody has requested classified documemts at all and we are very clear on our policy never to accept them anywhere on any of our platforms:
Please do not twist my worlds and mislead people. Many reports have already been made on the AIM-120 series using open information and this is exactly what I was reffering too.
We only ever use publicly avalable and open sources. Never anything with any kind of restrictions or classifications.
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Wrong.
This update’s biggest beneficient is germany, giving them best spaa that actually keep the sky clean and also giving them proper FnF AGM CAS plane.
RU didn’t get anything fancy, and also got their kh38 slingers countered by others’ new spaa.
Can’t wait to build a 12.7 germany lineup right now.
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Not everybody is ready to hear this, but:
russia is ussr’s sub tech tree.
This update was hardly a slap in the face for the USSR/Russian tree lol.
The only nations that got done dirty this update were Italy, Britain, Israel and France. You could maybe also argue Japan and China, but I’ll wait if their AAs get fixed anytime soon before judging them.
It was on a very weak side for what WT is used to.
Yeah but USSR got a T-72 with APS, plus most nations already maxed out with velchies, we’re in the late 2000’s or in the 2010’s tech era, there are not many things you can add to the game especially not for Russia where we have things from 2010’s already.
I mean it was a rather weak update overall when compared to what we used to get.
Except maybe for naval players?
same as ukraine and czech
What ukrainian vehicle there is in game?
So what can the players do to fix the missile if the few reliable pieces of public info available of the AIM-120 gets rejected in the bug reports? It seems pretty much obvious that you people are asking for the same sekrit stuff you don’t want.
Or the development team can openly disclose and use the ‘we believe’ gimmick on the amraam missile series, so they
- confirm that they are satisfied with its anemic AOA and
- we can stop pretending that the bug report system is made to achieve some sense of accuracy, and its just a platform that Gaijin uses to justify the game conventions they seek/want.
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Reports can be made with any publicly available sources that are in no way restricted or classified.
Once again, we have been very clear about our stance on anything restricted:
https://forum.warthunder.com/t/source-material-restrictions-on-classified-and-export-restricted-information-military-restrictions/2069/3
Not only do we not want it on any of our platforms, but we take immediate action to ban individuals who do so.
So this notion that we are somehow asking for restricted material is a complete fabrication.
We wont ever touch, use or handle such information.
Smin, I’ll repeat myself for one last time:
What can players do to fix the missile if the few reliable pieces of public info available of the AIM-120 gets rejected in the bug reports?
This position of ruling out classified docs literally goes out of the window the moment bug report managers reply suboptimal stuff like ‘game convention, not a bug’ or ‘I believe this is a clear marketing lie’, without giving meaningful feedback nor their own sources to back up.
You can do an awesome job doing PR to the bug report area, but the truth is widely known in the dedicated playerbase.
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When we will get the Meteor and the AIM-120D, will we be able to leak sekrit documents?
The issue with this is that stuff is often added in a state that isn’t accurate to known and public data, however you won’t accept that data because it doesn’t fit your criteria. This leaves classified documents as one of the only actual sources that have a chance of being accepted.
The burden of proof shouldn’t solely be on us, but rather on the Gaijin team in some cases.
This is one of the most frustrating things about bug reporting modern vehicles. I’ve seen the Chinese community get 20+ reputable sources only for it to be rejected because it doesn’t fit with the sources Gaijin wants (which are almost completely unavailable in China). You see this a lot for NATO stuff too cause everything is classified. This is also ignoring the fact that accepted bug reports sometimes go nowhere (spall liners on Chinese top tier tanks for example).
How are we supposed to prove something is modelled incorrectly if Gaijin won’t accept any sources? And how are we supposed to know that it is correct if Gaijin won’t give any evidence of such?
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People are really losing faith in the bug report system, especially when things have been reported for years, and not actioned on. It’s widely known and it makes people not take responses seriously
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