F/A-18 Hornet (Legacy): History, Performance & Discussion

Isnt it a system that adds the drag of the pylon to the drag of the weapon? So that if youbedpend or jettison the weapon the pylon adds no drag?

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No, for example… the F-14 would be limited to subsonic speed with six phoenix missiles at sea level but in-game it can still easily go mach 1.1+ at sea level. This is because pylon mounted ordnance has little drag and they do not tune them per aircraft.

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There is, but not as much as it was irl. Like for example, I’m pretty sure the gripen has its top speed lowered to Mach 1.4 when carrying missiles irl, but in game it can still go 2000km+ with missiles on

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Some more photos of dual underwing Sidewinders on the early A-model Hornets…
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In-game loadouts drag is incredibly bad implemented, probably way lower than it should be on most weapons.

Currently, most AA missile have similar drag.
A huge external fuel tank has a ridiculous low drag penalty, lower than any missile.
A bunch of mavericks have less parasitic drag than a single aim-9 somehow

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Can this dual pylon also be mounted on sta.3/7?

AFAIK for amraam, but not for Aim-9

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I am further researching the F404 engine as it intrigued me why this engine may have been chosen to be upgraded over time into the F414 and later iterations - it seems to be one of the few engines over time that have actually realized the growth potential goals originally set for it.

Additionally, it is curious to me that the F404 engine allowed the Gripen to supercruise. It seems as early as the early 1970’s the precursor to the F404 (YJ101) was going to be utilized for America’s first experimental supercruise aircraft. They had hoped to realize supercruise speeds up to mach 1.8 with this engine. This of course did not pan out, but later the result of this type of research led to the F-22A (which CAN supercruise at mach 1.7+).

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the normal gripen, or the E variant can super cruise?

Both of them can

No, the early Gripen variants can not supercruise.

One of the requirements for supercruise is to have a useful paylod for the role and mission. The Gripen A/C/D could not go supersonic with any kind of payload without using afterburner. As such, it fails to be able to supercruise.

Even then, the Gripen NG and E variants can only supercruise at mach 1.1 with a basic air to air loadout or mach 1.2 in a clean configuration.

The F414 GE is just not optimised for high speed flight.

The gripen C can supercruise in war thunder.

The Gripen being unable to supercruise at higher airspeeds is more a function of the intake design than anything else. They focus on low aerodynamic drag and it is optimized for airspeeds below 1.8 mach generally. The F414 is not limited to this airspeed, and in fact should be more than capable of supercruise up to 1.6+ mach, it is a limitation of the mass flow through the core that prevents this. The intakes are simply too small.

The F-18C with the GE-402 engines is capable of mach 1.8+ in clean configuration as it is less limited by the intakes. The Gripen’s RM12 configuration of the engine actually utilizes a higher flow fan for improved low speed performance compared to the GE-400/402 models which are better optimized for transonic and supersonic flight performance. Had the Gripen been a twin engine design similar to the other EuroCanards, it would have far less difficulty supporting the thrust requirement to supercruise in the efficiency envelope.

The Hornet just doesn’t have the airframe conducive to supercruise.

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No hornet, even base A. Sad. Maybe next year.

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Hopefully this summer tomcat style :D

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It can only be leaked and not released for so much longer lol

Curious where Legacy and Super Hornets fall in the US tree so i can get the F-14B or AV-8B+ on sale

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Hornet is becoming the new B-26 lmao

maybe they will introduce it will lower BR than current/future toptiers

I already lost hope. Eurocanards before Hornet is beyond crazy. It’s like they delay its introduction every time we mention it