I definitely wouldn’t call it good in comparison to anything at 12.7 right now
and ? u still got the F-16C the best fighter together with the gripen, dominating a whole update:
F-14B was dominating in its introduction as well and had no competitor.
US literaly is getting a new toy every 1-2updates.
Not everything needs to be Meta, you are crying in big niveau when US had 2 dominating aircraft in their introduction for multiple patches
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It is very capable against the other jets at top tier. Hands down.
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Only in dogfighting, the MiG-29’s won BVR with the R-27ER.
MiG’s with R-27ER’s were out for two whole updates before the F-14B, making the F-14B only good at BVR against lobbies with either clueless MiG players or just none at all.
It’s a major nation, it should be.
The F-15, one of the best jet airframes of all time, comes out as the worst of all the jets added with it. It’s also added in one of its earliest variants, not matching the manufacturing date of its competitor from the USSR.
Against any of the jets at 12.7 right now, no. @ me from one of the F-15 threads if you want to continue arguing, though. I responded to an on-topic comment, and I don’t want to derail this thread.
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Damn, i want cobra.
Nah, I’m good. I’m not wasting my time with someone who doesn’t even have it.
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27er can easily be dodged, just stay on the ground, its a non issue most of the time, most fights get resolved in those dogfights, the smokeless Aim 9M giving many sneak kills, and they only carry 2 ERs
not true, the F-14B was able to easily shoot of its phoenixes and immediatly go into defense, the mig29 needed to keep its lock to hit, not mentioning the f14b not activating rwr.
Additionaly the engine of the F-14B was a beast and with the giant countermeasure amount it was able to functionaly be a mobile ECM with constant release, making R-60M useless
tell that germany, major nation is a shit describtion, yes germany isnt that strong in air, but we could get the same amount of toys easily for ground, where were we ? we were waiting 3 years for a new mbt.
Sad excuse from you
Yes and? Multiple airframes needed multiple patches to be implemented correctly. F-16 got its good flight model only added patches later as well. Hell i am still waiting for tornados getting fixed.
Get a grip, flight models arent easily modelled and the data for them isnt always easily available either. The F-15 might get its needed buffs a few patches later that can happen and is normal for aircraft.
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how fast is this thing on the deck
Pretty Slow
Expect around M1.05 for a clean F-18A
Around M1.1 for a clean F-18C
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In fighter escort configuration (60% fuel, 2x AIM-9 on STA 1/9, 2x AIM-120 on STA 4/6), maximum speed of F/A-18C with EPE is about Mach 1.07 at SL.
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And it takes 7-8 hours to reach max speed!
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She’s pretty but she’s fucking slow. I think people will be underwhelmed that it won’t be able to keep up with literally everything else at top tier.
@wasa850 See here for the data on F/A-18 turn rate
The F/A-18 with presumably the -402 engines (the improved ones) sustains a turn rate of 19.2 deg/s with 2x AIM-9 and 2x AIM-120 with 60% fuel loading. The Gripen will certainly outperform it in regards to sustained turn rate at higher altitudes, but at lower altitudes I think the F/A-18 will gain a slight advantage. Certainly, if the specific excess power of the Gripen (which is double anything else in the game at the moment) isn’t fixed… it MAY have an advantage in a sustained fight against the F/A-18C.
Currently the Gripen with 30 minutes fuel (more than 60% internal, but it is the available turn data I have on hand…)… sustains at most around 19 deg/s. This would be lower when equipped with ordnance, additionally the F/A-18C’s would be higher when it isn’t equipped with ordnance. The two aircraft are very similar in performance, though imo. People tend to forget that the F/A-18 also has similar acceleration to the Gripen despite the “poor T/W ratio”… it’s no F-15 or MiG-29, but it is certainly a capable fighter.
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The F18 is not nearly as aerodynamic as the Gripen. They are not comparable at all whatsoever. Its weak thrust to weight will mean it’s highly limited in available Gs a pilot is able to pull at high speed by the fbw.
Both the F16 and F18 were designed under the way LFX program. Their core doctrine is energy maneuverability. If the F-16 is limited to such a degree in alpha and g limitation at high speed with its high thrust to weight, the F-18 with most assuredly be worse with its far weaker thrust to weight (not even an 1:1) and aerodynamics. It will be more limited by the fbw at actual dogfight speeds.
The F18 is always shown maintaining a high level of nose authority only at landing speeds in any videos found on the web. That is because its nose authority is designed for one thing: landing and taking off from a boat.
Nothing more, nothing less. It’s not designed for cut throat dogfighting like the F16 or Gripen. It is and always will be merely a workhorse naval multirole platform.
It is pure fantasy to assume the F-18 will be any better than the F-16, mirage 2k and especially a Gripen in a dogfight.
All the F18 will have is high nose authority at stall and landing speeds unable to maintain it for any long duration due to its pathetically weak engines and inferior aerodynamics & gross weight compared to the mentioned fighters.
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It’s basically a fancy supersonic A-7 that can sling Sparrows, and later AMRAAMs. It can’t even self-designate for SALH GBUs until the F/A-18A+ / -C turn up.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the introductory config sat at 11.0 or 11.3, especially if they haven’t got the radar implemented quite right, considering that even the F-4E / F-4S as they are now pretty much shows it up in all respects, let alone something more advanced like the introductory variants of the rest of the Teen series.
And the AV-8B+ & F-111F(option for the prototype AIM-7G) would dumpster it in the strike role.
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The f18 legacy weighs just about the same weight of a Mig29 SMT empty. It has a 32,000lb gross weight with weaker thrust to weight than the MiG29 SMT.
It will utterly fail to compete with the ultra light weight of the Gripen,
It will not hang with the F16 not the Mirage 2000 or any Mig29.
It’s pretty much the same weight as the Mig29SMT with far weaker engines. We all know how the SMT performs.
Additionally the F18 is limited by a fbw. It’s not going to be doing anything more special than a SMT. Even min fuel.
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It’s a typo. Im on my phone literally at a bar.
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Lookin for dudes?
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What is this from?
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